Archive of the Special Education Message Board Folder: Education of the Deaf February 3, 1995 - November 19, 1997 FILE NAME: deafedu1.txt 409 messages - 86 Pages SUBJECT: Re:SPEECH ACQUIS.-HEARING IMPAIR Date: 95-02-03 23:05:35 EST From: Mel ASL Howard: I recently completed a paper on this subject for my M.Ed. of the Deaf program which I am trying to complete. It might be of interest to you, or at least give you some good references from which you can begin your search for information. Let me know if you're interested. sksk. MEL ASL SUBJECT: Language and Speech Aquisition Date: 95-02-11 19:28:14 EST From: RuffRobin I read with interest your notes on Speech and Language Aquisition related to Deaf children and ASL. I am currently employed setting up a bi-lingual ASL-English preschool program. I have a parent of a deaf child who is not yet convinced that ASL or signs in general won't stop her child from aquiring spoken English/LAnguage later. If you have concrete information to help me persuade her otherwise it would be appreciated SUBJECT: Augmentitive communication Date: 95-02-13 14:55:17 EST From: SammyG23 Hello, I am a student at the Univ. of GA and I am doing research on different types of communication aids avalible to children with a range of disabilities including hearing and visual impairments, limited gross motor abilities, and limited cognitive abilities. If you have a child or student using any augmenttitive devices I would appreciate hearing your opinions on the pros and cons of different aids. THANK YOU, Sammy. Please Email at SammyG23 SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-02-19 01:43:23 EST From: Brhilda I am a parent of a deaf child. When my child was very young and started speech therapy we did not use sign, after a year and a half, he only had about a 50 word prompted vocabulary. We decided to incorporate sign language in his speech therapy, within 6 months he had a spontaneous verbal/signed vocabulary. I am a firm believer that sign language helps develop verbal language in deaf children. Expressively my son is primarily verbal, and has very good speech. SUBJECT: College Grants? Date: 95-03-05 14:28:31 EST From: STBeliever I have a son who is 18, graduating from Illinois School for the Deaf. He is wanting to go to Gallaudet University In Washington. I hear it is very expensive. Does anyone know of a few good places to apply for financial assistance for him. We don't have a lot of money, but want to send him to where he can really excell. Any financial aid help would sure be appreciated. Please E-mail me with some answers. Scott Eyer SUBJECT: Re:SPEECH ACQUIS.-HEARING IMPAIR Date: 95-03-07 21:43:34 EST From: DSQUAREDS I am completing my MS in speech and language; my personal focus is in speech/language of the HI/D. I have many articles and resources. Let me know if you are still writing that paper and need some info. SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-03-07 21:46:18 EST From: DSQUAREDS I have a few journal articles with data to support later English acquisition when language-learning was begun in sign. Let me know if you still need it. SUBJECT: Assessment Date: 95-03-08 22:38:35 EST From: Baberann I'm interested in assessment for language/communication for preschool deaf and hard of hearing kids. Any resources out there? SUBJECT: Jobs...Phoenix Date: 95-03-15 23:06:14 EST From: Allison AZ I am currently looking for a teaching position in Deaf Education. If anyone knows of any open positions in the Phoenix area I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!!!!! SUBJECT: Closed Caption Decoders Date: 95-03-15 23:07:52 EST From: Allison AZ I taught the Deaf/Hearing impaired in Yuma Arizona. The school was primarily of Mexican Heritage. I was looking for information on the use of decoders with ESL students. Thanks SUBJECT: ASL as a first language Date: 95-03-18 17:17:23 EST From: DBrooks445 Hi, I'm a speech/language pathologist in Vermont working with two profoundly deaf 5 year-olds. Their first language is American Sign Language, which they have been taught in a special classroom for the deaf. They both have also had cochlear implants, and one of them has begun to hear and speak. Our dilemma is in planning for next year. The classroom for the deaf may not be available and we must serve them in our own school district. Does anyone have any success (or failure) stories that I can learn from about how to teach deaf children the language they need in a regular elementary school setting? I would love to have your input! SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 95-03-18 18:13:32 EST From: SusanS29 What about getting an intepretor? SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 95-03-20 19:26:40 EST From: Elisabel Teachers of Deaf needed in Collier County Public Schools, Naples FL (813)643-2700. This school year and next. SUBJECT: Cochear Implant parent mainstrea Date: 95-03-24 21:21:54 EST From: StanySpeak I'm curious to find out what's happening to hearing impaired kids with cochlear implants in the mainstream or fully included. Are you getting school staff support? How are your IEP goals written. My son has fairly good speech skill but is language delayed. My school district is baffled with concerns about his ability to grow academically. I think social skill and general ed. is a great tradeoff. He has hearing and hearing impaired friends . SUBJECT: Cued Speech Date: 95-03-28 23:30:23 EST From: Keldonia A friend of mine advocated for this approach in our school district in 1985. Almost all of the kids that were in the deaf-ed classes began this (cued-speech) approach in communication. We found that this method was easier for families to learn and I witnessed kids reading on level and being totally integrated within the mainstream. The scholl then held early morning cuing classes for hearing students. To our surprise, the classes were and continue to be full. The first students have now graduated and are gainfully employed or are in college. SUBJECT: ASL LIT (teachers and Parents) Date: 95-04-16 15:45:03 EST From: THE SAP To anyone that works in a Deaf education setting I need input on the kinds of books you are using to teach literature. I am doing research for an American Sign Langauge Literature class about how Deaf children gain identity and values through the books they read. It does not matter if the books you use do not have Deaf characters or if you teach in a mainstream setting. I am also interested to hear from parents of Deaf adolescents. I would like to know what you think your children are learning from the books they read in literature or English class. Do they get the same values and identity from the books as we do as hearing people or is their identity stiflrd by the fact that they read books about hearing kids all the time. Can they still gain insight about themselves, have self-esteem and pride from the books they read? If they do not get it from books at school what do they read at home,summer, with friends..... I would appreciate the answers to this by e-mail, so that I do not have to search for them in forums. The Sap SUBJECT: Re:College Grants? Date: 95-04-24 23:25:43 EST From: DDBurch Have you tried Vocational Rehabilitation?? SUBJECT: Book Titles Date: 95-04-27 10:54:02 EST From: THE SAP I need parent to go to their schools or call schools for information for me. I am doing a survey on whether schools carry books in their library that have either deaf characters or are about deafness. I need to know the titles of the books and what state you are in and what type of school you visited or called (mainstream or residential. Please e-mail me with info. Thanks..The Sap SUBJECT: master? where? Date: 95-04-29 14:29:10 EST From: Fenley I'm interested in getting my masters in Deaf Education. Where are some good schools for this, and what are my options when finished? Can you help? write to ..Fenley... please SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 95-05-03 07:35:08 EST From: LPodell2 Fenley, 2 of the best programs for Deaf Ed. are Gallaudet U. (of course) and Western Maryland College. I highly recommend Gallaudet for the Deaf Community, Culture and socialization- it also looks great on a resume. The education is good too! I have heard Univ of Arizona is good too. SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-05-16 18:43:31 EST From: CARNSTER You are setting up a preschool for children who need to learn ASL. Wow! Maybe you are the one I need to talk to. I am adopting a 2 year child who was born with a paralysis of her vocal chords. She can hear perfectly. But she need to learn ASL in order to communicate her needs etc. The doctors say that maybe someday she might grow out of her paralysis. In the mean time ASL is the only option. My wife and I want to also learn ASL. Can you send us on the right road. We also want to continue to encourage to try to use her vocal chords. Is there any program that would do that. I was looking at the computer store for a program that might at least encourage her to make a sound into a microphone and the result would be something would happen on the screen. If you can help pleases write. Thanks Carnster@aol.com SUBJECT: multi-handicapped/HOH Date: 95-05-17 23:02:26 EST From: Ciati I am an itinerit teacher for students who are deaf/hearing impaired with other handicaps. I am always looking for some input and suggestions. My students range from severe/profound mental and physical limitations, to just physical limitations. (on top of hearing impaired) Many are also blind or visually impaired. Any ideas for me? SUBJECT: Re:Assessment for Pre School Date: 95-05-17 23:22:38 EST From: JDefriese The St. Joseph Institute for the deaf in St. Louis is an exceptional school for the Assessment of pre-school cahildren and the hard of hearing. Contact Sister Arlene at the Malloy Center Division. SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-05-18 19:56:36 EST From: SusanS29 I have a friend with a deaf child, and they were able to study ASL at no charge through the Church of the Latter Day Saints. SUBJECT: mssd Date: 95-06-02 21:28:50 EST From: ELIDOW I have a 13 year old deaf daughter and just heard about a school named Model Secondary School for the deaf in Washington DC, its on the Galludet University campus. Can anyone give me more information on this subject. We would really appreciate it. SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-06-06 21:47:04 EST From: HAUnser There is a great program for HI kids to encourage vocalization-intelligible speech called The Speech Viewer. It is IBM compatable, but expensive. Want more?HAUnser SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 95-06-07 18:07:12 EST From: HAUnser St. Mary's School for the Deaf also has an excellent program . It is located in Buffalo New York. It is connected to Canisius College. The program is a year and a summer. They are also looking for teachers right now.HAUnser SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-06-07 18:12:44 EST From: HAUnser I look up some mor info on cumputer speech programs for you. From Communication Skill Builders I saw the Speech Master which is for MAC 3-adult ranges in price from $299-$599 the number is 1-800 866 4446. Another system is called Speech Viewer and Video Voice. More? Hope that helps you get started. HAUnser SUBJECT: Re:mssd Date: 95-06-10 18:55:13 EST From: SDevito106 Wonderful school for Deaf students. Every Residential school for the Deaf looks to Gally for guidance. Call and get their information. The people who work there are very helpful to parents and it doesn't matter where the children go to school. They help everyone. SUBJECT: Non-verbal students Date: 95-06-12 19:35:59 EST From: MOE THE K I am an inclusion aide to a first grade non-verbal student who suffers from a variety of disabilities including seizures and sensory motor problems. This student communicates using facial expressions, vocalizations, and Mayer-Johnson pictures. She is learning a bit of sign as well. Any ideas on how to increase social communication as well as academic? She is extremely happy well liked child. She is doing extremely well. All of her work is adapted for her. If anyone has any suggestions for this student please send them my way. -LK-Boston SUBJECT: Signing for emergency personal Date: 95-07-07 20:37:12 EST From: PSwan98414 Looking for a program to teach signing to fire , police and ambulance personal to find out what the person injuries are and be able to make the understand that we can understand and help them . I would like a chart with signs of about 24 or so in to an 8 hour lesson to teach . CAN ANY ONE OUT THEIR HELP ME WITH A PROGRAM. Phil Swanson Fire Service Instructor 7/7/95 SUBJECT: Children with hearing impairment Date: 95-07-14 21:46:20 EST From: BIRD78 I am going to school for special ed, and i am looking for ways to find articles on this subject. Can you help? Mary. SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 95-07-16 12:40:29 EST From: HPerney Dear Fenley I had a very good experience getting my Masters at Southwest Missouri State University (SMSU). The program is 5 semesters (a year , a summer and a year) long. The tuition is resonable. The Instructors are very good to work with. There are many opportunities for practicum experiences. SMSU is located in Springfield, Mo. Good Luck!!! H. Perney SUBJECT: Help with ASL - - Date: 95-07-28 00:51:02 EST From: MAXANDJAKE Hi my name is Carol and I am using my friends aol address. I'm a kindergarten teacher in California. I'm researching books and materials that deal with ASL) American Sign Language) or SEE (Sign Exact English) for primary K-3 students. Have you see and/or used any that I could implement in my own kindergarten classroom? Thank you for any help or suggestions, E-Mail me at White R99 aol.com thank you. SUBJECT: Re:Signing for emergency persona Date: 95-07-30 19:30:01 EST From: Satyre EMT There are several books that can be obtained for EMS personel. One in particular is titled "Medical Sign Language". Most book stores carry it... Also, check the medical reference section in the book shops, they will usually have a list of recommended books for sign. If you need any help drop me a line... Satyre EMT (Sonya) SUBJECT: Re:Signing for emergency persona Date: 95-07-31 06:30:19 EST From: SusanS29 The Mormon Church (Latter Day Saints) often offer signing classes for anyone who wants to attend. I suggest you give them a call and see if they're doing it anywhere in your area. Also in our area some of the junior colleges offer classes in signing. SUBJECT: Sign Language Date: 95-08-02 20:45:59 EST From: Satyre EMT I have a 5 yr old who is 65 to 70% deaf. The problem is that he refuses to learn sign. When ever someone tries to show him how to use sign, he ignores them to the point of leaving them where they are and going somewhere else.. Is there any way to get his interest up in sign?? I've tried to teach him as well but ehe even ignores me......HELP!!!!!!!!! SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 95-08-05 19:53:14 EST From: LMclen9951 Monterey County Office of Ed. in CA is looking for a preschool teacher for the hearing impaired before September! They are looking for someone who is openminded about all aspects of educating the Deaf. SUBJECT: Future Teacher seeks mentors Date: 95-08-26 15:08:18 EST From: Kaleighdon I am about to start work toward an MS in Special Education, with licensure for starting teaching in Fall 1997. My primary interests are working with hearing impared children and Down's syndrome kids, ages 8-12. Would love to talk to someone who is in this field to get feedback, ideas. Please E-mail - kaleighdon@aol.com. Thank you. SUBJECT: Re:Future Teacher seeks mentors Date: 95-08-27 09:13:28 EST From: HLC 594 Hi! I would love to share with and learn from you. I am going on 20 yrs working with children with multiple handicaps in the public school system. I have taught lots of kids with Down Syndrome and in the last few years have been teaching children who are multihandicapped/hearing impaired. I am living and working in Central FL. -Holly (HLC 594) SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 95-08-27 10:32:47 EST From: Loguek This is in response to Satyre EMT re: reluctance of 5 year old son to sign. We have a 7 year old profoundly deaf son who was in a public TC program for 3 years who was behaving as your son. He preferred to speak and refused to sign which did not endear him to the educators. He was labeled as a troublemaker for not paying attention to the signs and he was frustrated because he was not being allowed to converse via his chosen mode of communication, speech. We started him at Central Institute for the Deaf in St. Louis and he has truly blossomed in the one year he has attended. We are starting our second year and my son is much happier and is making great progress. As a parent, I do not think you should force your child to sign, if in fact he is resisting those efforts. You may make him extremely frustrated and yourself as well. Some studies have shown that some children cannot process sign, lipreading and auditory information at the same time, and I believe this was true for my son. I do not have an e-mail address yet, but I would love to talk with you sometime about this. Good luck...I know you want to do what's best for your son, but it really is important to pick up on the clues your child is giving you. SUBJECT: teachers of deaf Date: 95-09-05 21:59:28 EST From: EASGBOO interested in trading ideas, thoughts, etc. with other teachers of deaf. e-mail me at easgboo@aol.com or post something. thanks SUBJECT: RE: Sign language Date: 95-09-05 22:03:05 EST From: EASGBOO hi. to Satyre. I teach deaf kids. Tell me more about your son. How are things going now? What kind of educational program is your son in? Is he aided? What can you tell me about his speech/language. You have many options. Don't despair. Post a message or contact me at easgboo@aol.com SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 95-09-07 17:01:38 EST From: SASPENCE24 HELLO, I AM CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN AN ORAL PROGRAM FOR THE DEAF. SEVERAL OF THE KIDS HAVE COCHLEAR IMPLANTS. SPEECH IS NEW TO THESE CHILDREN SO START SLOWLY. BEGIN BY LABELING EVERYTHING IN YOUR CLASSROOM, FROM GARBAGE CAN TO TABLE. REINFORCE ALL OF THIS BY NAMING EVERYTHING YOU USE. ANOTHER GOOD PLACE TO START IS WITH VOWELS AND PICTURES. IT'S ROUGH BUT JUST VOCALIZE AND MAKE THE CHILDREN VOCALIZE EVERYTHING. USE A MIRROR AND TEACH THEM TO USE THEIR VOICE! GOO LUCK! IT' S HARD WORK. SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 95-09-07 18:59:35 EST From: SusanS29 Thank you for posting! I'm going to ask a favor of you. Please use both upper and lower case letters when you post. ALL CAPS is how we "shout" on-line. SusanS29-Host SUBJECT: Computers/Deaf Ed Date: 95-09-18 09:00:43 EST From: JCKKops Need information on software for teaching reading and math and cd-rom applications for elementary school deaf children SUBJECT: running in circles Date: 95-09-18 20:56:40 EST From: GinaMark I am a first year teacher. My class is a mutiple handicaped class. My students are Deaf and learning disabled. I have two students that are Deaf and Blind. I also have a student with the CHARGE syndrom. I am to teach them living skills. I have not been trained in the area at all. I know it sounds simple but I am running in circles. If you have any ideas for units or any bits of advice please E-Mail me ASAP (GinaMark@aol.com). Thanks Gina SUBJECT: Re:Education for HOH in Atlanta Date: 95-09-19 23:34:03 EST From: EJoe21595 I have a 5 year old daughter that is Hearing Impaired. She has very good residual hearing with hearing aids (as good as 25 dB up from 70dB). She has good speech and uses verbal speech expressively. She is being mainstreamed this year in Kindergarten. She has been in a Total Communication environment in WI that employs combination of instructional sign language, auditory-verbal discrimination, and speech reading since age 3. We are relocating to the Atlanta area next year and have no idea of the Educational Sytem for Deaf and Hard of Hearing there. Can anyone inform us about the public school system environment, assistance for hearing impaired children, and/or special programs existing in the Atlanta area that we should be aware of. Please e-mail me at EJoe21595@aol.com SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisitio Date: 95-09-19 23:38:49 EST From: EJoe21595 Yes, the IBM Speech Viewer is very expensive! Even with the educational discount. Any other good, affordable software out there for speech ? SUBJECT: Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-22 21:24:03 EST From: DonnaBragg I teach Apartment Living and Home and Career Skills (formerly Home Economics) at New York School for the Deaf. I wrote my own curriculum for the Apartment Living class. What kinds of Life Skills are you looking to teach. I also have some deaf/blind students. I have gotten some help form Helen Keller and the state school for the blind. Write to me at DonnaBragg@aol.com Happy signing! SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-23 11:32:52 EST From: SusanS29 "Write to me at DonnaBragg@aol.com Happy signing!" Just a reminder folks -- when you contact someone here on AOL you don't have to add the "@aol.com" to your on-line name. In fact, if you add that, the message *leaves AOL,* goes out into cyberspace and then returns before the person gets it -- an unnecessary delay. You do need to add "@aol.com" if you're using AOL to contact people through the Internet. In addition if you include your AOL address on your business card, as I do, you should add it there. That way if you give your business card to someone on, say, CompuServ, they can still contact you. SusanS29-Forum Host SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-25 19:55:46 EST From: SPECEDPAR Susan 29...do you have any children ? if so what are their disabilities? Where do you live? SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-25 20:34:21 EST From: SusanS29 I have two children. Both of them have ADD/ADHD, and one has a learning disability. I live in Missouri. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-27 19:20:07 EST From: SPECEDPAR Nick, age13 has Down Syndrome, Mark age 10 has LD/ADHD and Tom is deaf/oral and severe LD. We have gone through hell and back with the school system-- they know me well!!! Susan, what is going on in your state with the reauthorization of IDEA? Do you work with all disabilities? Tom is deaf/ oral. Yes, it was our son that was punished by having his hearing aids turned off and faced the wall plus the school Audiologist overamplified Tom's listening device and was mal-functioned. Because of this situation Tom has post-traumatic stress disorder.. and still can not talk about the kindergarten year. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-27 20:56:11 EST From: SusanS29 "Do you work with all disabilities?" I hope there is *no one* who works with all disabilities; no one person can have true expertise in all disabilities. SUBJECT: Deaf Education Summit in CA Date: 95-09-27 23:47:25 EST From: SJohn52977 Deaf Education Coalition with support from California Agencies Serving the Deaf & hard of Hearing presents Summit on DEAF EDUCATION For 21st Century: An Innovative Approach for Critical Change Saturday, Oct. 7, 1995 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. Hosted by Greater Los Angeles Council on Deafness at Occidental College Keck Theater 1600 Campus Road Los Angeles, CA 90041 In 1989, in response to the findings of the Commission on Education of the Deaf, deaf community members, parents, teachers and administrators came together to discuss how to best impact services for deaf children in the state of California. The result of that meeting was the determination that the single largest problem facing deaf and hard of hearing children in the state of California was access to communication. In order to address this need through legislation, the Deaf Education Coalition was formed. The Deaf Education Summit is the critical next step following the passage of AB 1836. The purpose of the Summit is to receive, review, and respond to a proposal developed by the DEC, the result of a consumer driven analysis of deaf education in California. We invite Members of the Deaf Community, parents, teachers, administrators and students. Please contact Irene V-Frelich for registration 619/479-2811 (V) or 619/497-2821 (TTY). Registration is $35.00. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 95-09-28 14:01:38 EST From: SPECEDPAR I work with parents who have a child/children with Down Sydrome, Deaf/oral, and LD, ADD/ADHD. Because I have three children with three different disabilities, yes I am an expert in these fields. Even though I'm not an Audiologist, I could tell you as much as an Audiologist. I could talk with any one about behavior management. I am a teacher by trade but chose not to work. All the work I do for parents is volunteer. I get calls from all over Ga. and the USA. SUBJECT: Mainstreaming deaf students Date: 95-10-05 20:53:59 EST From: Cahillva I use a technique with my deaf students, called a dialogue journals. My kids and I write letters to one another in a journal. The writing provides a link between everyday life and language for my kids in my class. It also lets me model proper English usage and writing a letter. It really is fun, too. I have really gotten to know my kids personally this way. I am a resource teacher in a mainstream setting, and could see this as an easy way for you to begin implementing a personalized program. Hope this helps! Let me know what other resources you wish you knew about. Good luck. SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 95-10-05 21:01:17 EST From: Cahillva HI! I am a teacher of the deaf, and would like to offer a suggestion. You might be able to elicit more sign from your son if you make the language contingent upon something he wants. (have him repeat after you -mimic your signs--"I want red" when doling out M & M's or "I want to play outside", etc.) Your son should begin picking it up quickly, especially if you and your family have a good feeling toward sign. Make sure your facial expressions are "happy", too. Deaf kids -especially profoundly deaf who don't sign much are very reliant upon facial expression Another idea may be games where you can throw in the sign. You may not even have to make him mimic you. If you model enough he will follow. Your openmindedness is a *blessing* to your son. Many parents do not have as healthy of an attitude as yours. Keep UP THE SIGN!! You will need it later!! and your son will thank you later. SUBJECT: Re:Children with hearing impairm Date: 95-10-05 21:03:17 EST From: Cahillva Try searching for the American Annals for the Deaf, Perspectives in Education in Deafness, The Volta Review -all are worthwhile journals. I know- i just finished my thesis in Deaf Education. You should be able to find them through inter-library loan. SUBJECT: Teaching Deaf children Date: 95-10-05 21:09:09 EST From: Cahillva I am a resource teacher in an elementary school. I have 5 wonderful 5th grade girls in my class. I would like to talk to someoune else about the trials and triblations of being a resource. I feel like i spend every minute in a frenzy trying to keep my kids up with the mainstream. Any good curriculum modification ideas out there? Is my feeling of "not doing enough, not enough time" a normal one? SUBJECT: Re:mssd Date: 95-10-10 13:00:09 EST From: Chuck Dtz I am a teacher in MSSD's Postsecondary Enrichment Program. While your daugther is not old enough for our program, you can receive information about our high school from the office of admissions. You can write to Ms. Rosie Cobb, MSSD/Gallaudet University, 800 Florida Ave. NE, Washington, D.C. 20002. Also you can telephone her and request information at (202) 651-5397. I think you will find the opportunities for your daugther here very interesting. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Students Date: 95-10-10 19:01:52 EST From: HeleneMP I am a teacher of special ed students and I am a parent of a 16 year old deaf child. She was born hearing impaired and it progressed till she had no hearing whatsoever. She now wears a cochlear implant quite successfully. She hears on the telephone, can take notes in class, and does what any other teenage girl does. She has been mainstreamed her entire school career. She had an intinerant teacher of the hearing impaired come to her school four times a week when she was in 3-6 grades. She has maintained a 3.1 GPA without any assistance. I agree that it depends on the individual child as to whether they can manage in the mainstream, but I believe a great deal depends on the parents and educators as well. My daughter was never permitted to feel like a handicapped child, but a child that has a disability like many other people have. So often we as educators and parents fail to see the child's ability and only see the disability. If we can change this attitude maybe more students with disabilities would succeed in the mainstream. SUBJECT: Re:Cochear Implant parent Date: 95-10-25 17:00:49 EST From: Daisydo1 Date: 10-25-95 From: Daisydo1 I am a deaf educator. I would like to respond to your question about H.I. students with cochlear implants. This year is my first year to teach a deaf student with a cochlear implant. This student uses an interpreter in the classroom. The school system and school are very supportive of the H.I. program. This student participates in school clubs, sports, and after school activities. His interpreter goes to football practice everyday with him. He knows sign language and uses it about he also uses his speech. He is a very bright student. This student has grown socially and academically. I hope his information helps. SUBJECT: Teach spelling to the deaf Date: 95-11-08 20:10:00 EST From: Magic Drum I work closely with a TRM teacher that is having difficulties finding curriculums for teaching spelling to a deaf student. Please E-mail me with any information regarding this area. Geoff Woodson (Magic Drum) SED teacher Tulsa, Oklahoma SUBJECT: Re:Teach spelling to the deaf Date: 95-11-09 18:09:25 EST From: HLC 594 Hi! Please share what you find out. Would you mind telling me what TRM is? I teach children with multiple handicaps, moderate mental retardation and hearing impairments. I am always looking to share with and learn from others. -Holly (HLC 594) SUBJECT: Signing for Emergency pers Date: 95-11-12 18:43:36 EST From: MaMeHe Do you have a public school program for the hearing impaired where you live? As a teacher, I have tried to contact our local emergency agencies about offering sign classed and have been turned down flat. If there is a local program, I'm sure the teacher(s) would have info that you could look through before ordering anything. Gallaudet University and National Technical Instutute for the Deaf offer many options. (I know that NTID has many free publications.) Good Luck. SUBJECT: I NEED INFO ON USHERS SYND. Date: 95-11-18 16:08:35 EST From: Eraseirs HELP!!!!!!! I NEED ANY AND ALL INFORMATION CONCERNING USHERS SYNDROME. PLEASE SEND ANYTHING YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!! A HUNDRED THOUSAND THANKS!!!!!!! SUBJECT: Re:I NEED INFO ON USHERS SYND. Date: 95-11-18 19:11:14 EST From: HLC 594 Hi! Have you contacted: Usher Family Support c/o Helen Anderson 4918 42nd Ave S Minneapolis, MN 55417 612-724-6982 -Holly (HLC 594) SUBJECT: Re:ASL LIT (teachers and Par Date: 95-11-21 13:27:50 EST From: LDGBOOKS To THESAP /Do you know of TELL ME HOW THE WIND SOUNDS (Scholastic) features deaf 16 year old boy and hearing girl. ASL and English used in the story. Summer'96 Scholastic is coming out with HEAR NO EVIL paperback series of mysteries featuring Deaf 16 year old sleuth. Light stories, ASL\English. LDGBOOKS SUBJECT: Sign Language w/deaf/blind Date: 95-11-21 23:51:40 EST From: Sagaines Where can I learn how to sign with my three year old deaf/blind child? SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language w/deaf/blind Date: 95-11-22 09:56:40 EST From: SusanS29 Sagaines, may I suggest you call the Mormons -- the church of the Latter Day Saints? (Please if that's not the formal name of the religion please post it so this person can find it in the phone book). I have a friend with a deaf son. He had been in an oral program for years but wasn't doing well with it, and the school started teaching him to sign. This church holds classes on signing that anyone can attend -- not just Mormons -- and my friends took classes there. Whether they know much about the combination of deaf/blind I don't know but they probably have access to other sources of information. Also in my area the local junior colleges teach classes in signing, to train people to be interpretors. Again those classes may not be suitable, but the teachers are likely very knowledgeable about where to go for help, what is possible, etc. SUBJECT: Opinions wanted ... Date: 95-12-01 22:27:51 EST From: SmithTC For teachers of the hearing impaired out there -- Which would you prefer: teaching deaf kids in public school programs or at a school (residential) for the deaf? Why? SUBJECT: Deaf Ed. in San Antonio TX? Date: 95-12-03 11:35:47 EST From: G PAC2327 I am the father of a 17 y/o hearing impaired child. She is a bright girl, as many H.I children are, but only has a 4th grade reading level. The problem is that I am in the Army and we've been through many assignments and consequently, many Deaf Ed. programs. The biggest concern is that, with the exception of 2 deaf schools, all the other programs were mainstreamed and were inadequate in either their facilities, instructors or interpreters. In fact, in Alaska, they were so desperate for interpreters that they hired a woman with arthrites in her hands who wore splints when she interpreted!! Frankly, I'm tired of fighting with these school systems over what thery consider an adequate education for my daughter. They all seem to want to only do the bear minimum. Although, I realize that the battle will never end. She is reaching the age now where college plans must be considered. A fouth grade reading level is just not conducive for college success. We've been notified of my impending reassignment to San Antonio TX. There are several H.I programs listed in the area. I would appreciate any guidance as to the best program. We prefer a H.I School, not mainstreaming. Incidently, In all my assignments, from Alaska to Germany, the best programs we've encountered are The Maryland School for the Deaf, Colombia, MD, and the Marie H Katzenbach School for the Deaf, in W.Trenton, N.J. SUBJECT: re: humor and the deaf Date: 95-12-03 13:19:20 EST From: MDroz1 anyone out there have any teaching ideas on humor and the deaf? I would love ideas to teach them humor SUBJECT: SEE or ASL Date: 95-12-03 13:22:59 EST From: MDroz1 help does any one know of public domain pictures or software with picture? I need a source that will allow me to use the pictures for publication in my school system thanks aol SUBJECT: Re:Deaf/blind child Date: 95-12-05 21:51:25 EST From: JD153 I teach children who are visually impaired as well as deaf. When I teach a new sign, I have the child hold my hand while I complete the sign. I always begin with basic, everyday signs like "Good Morning" "Time to eat" names, days of the week, different foods (cookies, milk, crackers, juice, etc.) The signs are introduced when the word is needed in a functional way. This works as a nice, easy-to-learn method of signing for young children. SUBJECT: Re:Deaf/blind child Date: 95-12-08 17:28:32 EST From: HLC 594 Hi! I teach young children with multiple handicaps including those who are deaf/moderately mentally handicapped. I would love to compare notes with you. Do you have an references/resources on working with this population? -Holly (HLC 594) SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed. in San Antonio TX? Date: 95-12-29 23:32:53 EST From: LoraAshley My daugher is a student at Texas School for the Deaf in Austin, Tx. . You may want check it out for your daughter since it is not far from San Antonio. Some of the students stay on campus during the week and go home for the weekend. If you want more information I will see what I can do. SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 95-12-30 02:13:19 EST From: AMason7014 PUBLIC SCHOOL-OF COURSE! Children need to be exposed to all aspects of life,not just isolated in one area. Getting exposure, but also being educated in deaf culture gives a child a well-rounded outlook of the world around him/her. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Life Skills Date: 96-01-04 20:55:06 EST From: BBackhaus I work with Deaf patients in a mental health setting. I'm interested to know if you have any ideas on a Health and Nutrition curriculum. Particularily, I'm looking for visual and hands on activities. I find my patients learn best by classes that appeal to their visual learning or hands on activities but find myself at a loss as to resources available. Looking forward to hearing from you. SUBJECT: Looking for a Job Date: 96-01-06 18:29:47 EST From: DBrown1049 I have just completed my Bachelors Degree in Deaf Education and I am looking for a job. If you know of any teaching jobs please let me know. I also have a Bachelors in Speech Pathology and an Associates in Interpreting. I am state certified currently holding a level one. Please let me know if you know of anything, thanks. You can E-mail me at DBrown1049 SUBJECT: Help with music ed for deaf Date: 96-01-07 10:54:44 EST From: Larnott I am a brand new elementary music teacher and I have some hearing impared students. Some are mainsteamed, and I will also have one class of students who do not hear at all. (Some of the mainsteamed students hear some). I wanted to know if anyone knew of any resources for teaching music to the deaf. If so post here, or E-mail me at Larnott. I would appreciate any little bit of info anyone has because I really want these students to learn, but I'm not sure how to reach all of them. Thanks! -Larnott SUBJECT: Project Construct for HI Date: 96-01-12 17:31:42 EST From: Waldcc I am looking for information regarding the use of Project Construct with preschool Deaf and Hard of Hearing students. Who has used it? Has it been successful? How do I adapt for my Deaf and Hard of Hearing kiddos? SUBJECT: seeking employment Date: 96-01-13 19:14:22 EST From: LBIRD57 I graduated from Flagler College in April 1995. I majored in Elementary Education and Deaf Education. I currently hold NJ Teacher of the Deaf or Hard of Hearing and NJ Teacher of the Handicapped certificates. I am seeking a job working with deaf or hard of hearing students. I am willing to relocate out of NJ. Please E-mail me if you have any information. Thank you. SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 96-01-17 18:32:50 EST From: CBonaldi I prefer teaching in a school for the Deaf. You can't beat the kind of support you can get and the opportunity to network with others in your field. You also have contact with the Deaf community on a daily basis. Although I have never been hired to teach deaf kids in the public school, I have friends who do and many of them feel isolated. Of course, each program is different and the number of students and the number of staff hired who specialize in the field could make a difference. SUBJECT: Re:Summer Care for Deaf Kids Date: 96-01-19 21:55:19 EST From: WINDMAN88 Have you heard of the Aspen Camp for the Deaf in Colorado? I am an audiologist and know several children who have gone and had a wonderful learning opportunity in the midst of a beautiful camp. Lots of fun. SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-01-19 22:01:02 EST From: WINDMAN88 It sounds like your child needs to be in a formal school program with a focus on sign language. In addition, he should be evaluated either through your school system, a speech and hearing clinic or hospital to see if additional problems may be contributing to his difficulty with sign language. Good luck! SUBJECT: Learnign Sign Language Date: 96-01-21 15:02:46 EST From: Swiftsure Hello. My son Rory is 18 mos old. While he is not deaf he does have hearing problems occasionally and because he has Down syndrome we are using sign language to help him communicate. He is learning fast (9 words so far) and we have really enjoyed seeing how this new ability to communicate has empowered him. My question to you all is about learning sign language. We have many books which have been great and Rory has a speech therapist that helps too. However, I specifically hope to find two things ... 1) a video tape program to help Rory's father and I learn to sign in complete sentences, etc. and 2) an on-line or CD Rom dictionary that would let us cut and paste to print signs for flash cards. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much, Gillian (Swiftsure@AOL.com) SUBJECT: reading series Date: 96-01-24 13:18:49 EST From: Mom424 I am looking for information about the Reading Milestones reading series. This series was specifically designed for children who are deaf. Has anyone used this program and where can I find it? mom424 SUBJECT: Interpreting Date: 96-01-29 23:07:34 EST From: SmithTC I'm interested in becoming an interpreter for the deaf, but don't know where to seek certification. Have had 5 sign classes (2 english, 3 ASL) but can't find local programs leading to certification. Am presently working on teacher certification in hearing impaired ed., but interpreting is my true goal. Any suggestions? What state agency could I contact about certification? (I'm in Alabama) SUBJECT: history curriculum Date: 96-02-08 13:54:43 EST From: BRoach4977 I am interrested if anyone has used or heard of any curriculum for hearing impaired students of any grade level in the area of History. Any information would be greatly appreciated! TROACH@KENTVM.KENT.EDU SUBJECT: Re:Interpreting Date: 96-02-09 20:33:48 EST From: DBrown1049 I am in Oklahoma and out interpreting certifications come from the Rehab Department, so you may want to check with Rehab or Dept of Human Services. SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 96-02-19 20:22:47 EST From: MagABen Hi - I teach in a cluster-based program in SC (deaf students from 8 school districts are bussed into our district schools to widen the population base.) We service the surrounding school districts through a multi-district contract. I don't know if that is a possibility in your area - if there is a near by district with a higher population of hearing impaired students. If you must place your students in regular education it must be done with a sign language interpreter. This will enable the children to continue to build their sign vocabulary as they are taught. In the district I worked in before this one, the parents of one child opted for him to be fully mainstreamed with an interpreter when the deaf ed class was disbanded because of low numbers. They didn't want their child bussed to the cluster based program. With a lot of parental support and a good interpreter, this child has been able to succeed. But, it has taken a lot of initiative on the part of the parents to teach sign at home and to give additional language and reading support. Some districts also serve these low-incidence students through a HI itinerate teacher that provides resource support especially in reading and language. These are the two areas that the HI students tend to fall behind in. Good luck - I know this can be a frustrating and difficult position to be in. Maggie SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisi. Date: 96-02-20 18:08:52 EST From: SAMRIG A note to RuffRobin. I am a deaf college student currently in college-Major Special Ed. I use sign in class only in order to keep up with the class. My parents do not sign so it is not used in the home or with my friends. My twin sister is also deaf and she is also in college as a Deaf Ed major. The same applies to her regarding the use of sign. SAMRIG SUBJECT: Advice Needed Badly Date: 96-02-22 23:37:01 EST From: Ocelote This past September I became the guardian of a child that I had known through my work for several years. I was aware that there were dissiculties for the deaf and hearing impaired child in the areas of reading and writing but I did not expect the degree of lack of academic I encountered. This little girl was reading on a pre-primer level last school year. We have done a great deal of one on one and she is now on a high first grade-low second grade level at least this is what she tested. She cannot write a compete sentence and those that she does write are frequently unintelligible. This child's hearing loss occurred over the first four years of her life due to repeated ear infections. Her home of origin was Spanish speaking, she has been in an English speaking school environment since she was three when her hearing loss was discovered. When she first came home with me, her speech was near intelligible in English, much more comprehensible but limited in vocabulary in Spanish and her understanding of what she read was very limited. I had her tested, she tests of normal intelligence and without other learning disabilities. Is this the norm for a hearing impaired child??? I have to make some educational decisions very soon and I need assistance. I've read everything I can put my hands on and have found very little to tell me what to expect at this age level and the school is of little to no assistance in explaining things in a manner I can fully accept SUBJECT: Re:Advice Needed Badly Date: 96-02-29 23:09:26 EST From: CRieman You don't say how old the child is, but I can give you some general information for deaf/hard of hearing children. In general, reading levels for deaf children are low. It's been awhile since I saw numbers, but I think fourth or fifth grade is average reading level for deaf adults. Children who learn Cued Speech tend to have higher reading and comprehension scores than others (because of one-to-one corrspondance with English phonemes). For more information, try Gallaudet University Audiology and Speech-Language Pathology Department. Does your child use sign language or oral speech only? You didn't say. Many programs separate children based on their method of communication and not skill level. If you can be more specific on type of information you need, I might be able to help more. You can e-mail me at screen name. Hope it helps and good luck. SUBJECT: know anything about.... Date: 96-03-04 18:13:01 EST From: LizDana If anyone can e-mail me info on the discrimination of the deaf or any other type of handicap, that would be great!! SUBJECT: Re:Cochear Implant parent ma Date: 96-03-10 18:49:54 EST From: Pwlj I am the parent of a hearing impaired child who has been using a Spectra 22 Cochlear implant. He has benefitted greatly from the implant, gets great support from his school and speech therapist. He was implanted in June 1994. I would like to hear from other parents who have gone through this experience. SUBJECT: ASL as first language Date: 96-03-12 23:59:38 EST From: GRUNEY2 I am really struggling with the feeling of our H.I program that my daughter should learn ASL as her first language. We use mostly pigeon sign (combo of ASL and English grammer) at home but the school keeps pushing ASL. The thing I observe is the older H.I kids struggling with reading and writing English sentence structure because of ASL being not in English order. My daughter has quite a bit of hearing with her hearing aids so we always sign and speak everything in English order. Does anyone have a similar problem or input on this problem? You can E-mail me at GRUNEY2 or leave a message on this board. Thanks! SUBJECT: Student/Student/Adult links Date: 96-03-14 21:00:28 EST From: FurtherAdo I teach 7 hh/d children in a self-contained program in a regular school. They are in 3rd, 4th, and 5th grade. I am always in search of other students who are "in the same boat" who may be interested in becoming keypals. Also, and hh/deaf adults out there who are interested, we always need more role models!!! E-mail me if interested! The children can exchange e-mail, letters, faxes, photo's, whatever! SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 96-03-18 22:24:29 EST From: PattiMcHam "Does anyone have any success (or failure) stories that I can learn from about how to teach deaf children the language they need in a regular elementary school setting?" Yes, as a matter of fact I worked with a boy who is now almost eight. He was deaf until age 4 1/2, when he received his cochlear implant. We mainstreamed him into a regular kindergarten even though he only had a vocabulary of about 10-20 words. He received intensive speech/language therapy five days a week and had an instructional aide who reinforced the skills all day long. His special ed. teacher, myself (the speech path.) and the classroom teacher would meet weekly to consult. It was a *big* challenge, particularly because there is so little solid research to support one educational model over another for a child with a cochlear implant. His parents were absolutely adamant that no sign language be used, as were the hospital who did the implant. So he has been taught with an all-oral approach. He is still quite delayed with his speech/language, but a very popular second grader. By the way, it didn't hurt that he was probably one of the brightest kids I've ever worked with--a human sponge!! If you want some specifics, you can e-mail me directly. But do me a favor and wait until mid-April or so because I am moving next Monday across the country and my computer will be in transit for a few weeks. SUBJECT: culture & deaf education Date: 96-03-18 23:34:14 EST From: TooGoofy Hi! I'm writing a paper for one of my classes. It's a cross cultural perspective on the education of children who are deaf. If you have any idea where I can find some information, or if you yourself can tellme anyting I'll be very grateful!! I haven't narrowed down the countries yet, so I'll appreciate anything. I'd especially like some personal views. Please E-mail me at TooGoofy Thanks Kris SUBJECT: To KBN1EBN1 Date: 96-03-22 21:22:57 EST From: LSB1324 Hi! Read your message and since u didn't tell where u moved to, this is the only help I can give you. NJ has free subscription to Monthly Communicator 1-800-792-8339. They are affiliated with the Division of the Deaf and Hard of Hearing (DDHH). They sometimes have job listings there, along with events for all of NJ. Also u can call and ask them where to get the publication of the listing of all schools - private and Deaf Ed programs for all of the United States.. sorry, but I can't remember the name of it.. and it's not the American Annals of the Deaf.. I don't think.. but u can check in the local library, if they don't have and Deaf stuff, look in the libraries of colleges who have sign lang. programs, interpreter programs, or even Deaf Ed programs. Anyway, that listing of all the programs in the U.S. is updated every year.. It'll give you names, addresses, and a brief description of the program.. and even a phone number.. all you have to do is call, write, or send them an application. That's how my friend got her job.. in Conneticut. GOOD LUCK!! SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 96-03-22 21:32:11 EST From: LSB1324 Hi.. I'm a deaf educator, working as an interpreter right now. Some extra writing things that might be helpful (along with extra journal writing) would be to write paragraphs, or stories about the lessons that are taught in class. You didn't give any info on what work you give in class, so I'm a little limited...ok. for ex.. if you do a lesson on light and sound, for science, you can have him work on a 1/2 page (or whatever, your choice) summary on what was done, make it like a critique, or even have him work with another student and do a debate. I know from personal experience that a vocabulary book is extremely helpful.. for each subject. I have to ask... how does he communicate? Is the aide also an interpreter? Can she sign? Do you sign? Are you learning to sign? Does he have a phonic ear? How do the other students relate to him? Hope everything works out. Please write back.. Good Luck. Signed, Info. SUBJECT: Re:Summer Care for Deaf Kids Date: 96-03-30 02:57:52 EST From: CandaceMC Aspen Camp for the Deaf in Colorado is an EXCELLENT camp. I can get you more information if you would like me to. I teach Deaf children in Colorado and know that the camp is a wonderful way for our kids to socialize!!!! Please e-mail me for more information as I sometimes get "lost" on these message boards!!! CandaceMC SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 96-03-30 03:03:27 EST From: CandaceMC University of Northern Colorado has a good masters program. It is in Greeley, Colorado ( between Denver and Fort Collins) Good Luck!! SUBJECT: Jobs in San Diego? Date: 96-04-06 12:22:17 EST From: JHoff19152 I am relocating to San Diego in May and I am certified in Deaf Education for k-12. Does anyone know of any job openings in San Diego or the surrounding area? I would appreciate any information about San Diego schools that have programs for deaf students. Thanks!!!! Send to jhoff19152@aol.com SUBJECT: ASL class in h school curric Date: 96-04-07 21:03:44 EST From: VirgiCro Hi! I am the wife of a former Communications Handicapped teacher who is hard of gearing himself. Firght now he is working with the Deaf Community. From association, I have picked up ASL and can communicate with members of the deaf community. My school has asked me to teach to hearing students ASL as a class for September. My concerns are many but I would love some feedback on Curriculum, texts, support information on deaf culture, technological materials out there that could be used with a PC lab or videos--basically anything and everything that I can get my hands on. I am really starting out with no standing curriculum. My background is English and Foreign Languages k-12 and have been teaching for 22 years. I want to give this my best shot. Anybody out there with ideas and help. Please e-mail me at VirgiCro@aol.com..Thanks! SUBJECT: Re: Deaf Ed. Masters Program Date: 96-04-16 09:33:38 EST From: Ratgo I will be graduating in December with a B.S. in Early Childhood Ed. and I am searching out colleges with Masters programs in Deaf Education. Any suggestios? SUBJECT: Looking for Info Date: 96-04-20 20:35:40 EST From: San102 Where can I hide info on the rights of parents for the child in education of the deaf. Interested in the law and what is expected of an aide/interpeter at the school. E-mail San102 thanks SUBJECT: Nevada Date: 96-05-01 18:50:50 EST From: SandyDrum I am considering a position with Clarks County. Any information on their hearing impaired program, the district itself, the area, and cost of living would be appreciated. Please E-mail at SandyDrum @ aol.com. Thanks in advance. SUBJECT: Masters Progam? Date: 96-05-01 21:41:52 EST From: Joban23 Looking for a program in the New York area. Preferrably NYC or Westchester. Any suggestions? Please e-mail me or post a return message. Thanks, Joban SUBJECT: Re: Deaf Ed. Masters Program Date: 96-05-06 08:28:55 EST From: Umfbabe Try Gallaudet University in Washington D.C. I heard it is the best! SUBJECT: Educating the H.I. needed... Date: 96-05-10 09:35:36 EST From: Cochran24 I have a special ed. class about hearing and visually impaired. I need information about educating the hearing impaired. If you know of any good journals or writings, please let me know a.s.a.p, thank you so much email address is Cochran24 SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 96-05-22 20:18:07 EST From: Rocketboy Duluth Public Schools is hiring a teacher of deaf/hard-of-hearing. Call (218) 723-4150. SUBJECT: Re:Cued Speech Date: 96-05-22 20:27:15 EST From: Rocketboy I am a strong advocate of using Cue in the classroom - I have seen reading skills improve dramatically! Cue is the only visual way of giving exact English in running speech. It can be done with Signed English - but it slows you down too much. Also - cue can be learned quickly. Cue can be paired with sign language, too! SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 96-05-22 20:30:04 EST From: Rocketboy The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee has a strong program. There are lots of jobs available if you are willing to move. When I graduated two years ago everyone that looked for a job in my program was hired - that's a 100% employment rate - can't beat that! SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-05-22 20:37:08 EST From: Rocketboy Satyre: Have you thought about Cued Speech? It resembles English exactly and may be more acceptable. I have had students lose hearing late in life and tell me ASL is "baby talk". I have gotten good responses with Cue. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Deaf children Date: 96-05-22 20:44:48 EST From: Rocketboy I am a resource teacher with 7-1st through 6th graders. - it is very difficult to keep kids up with the mainstream! Sometimes I feel like I am adapting things way too much - that they shouldn't be in the mainstream for certain subjects but the parents insist they are - I am tired of playing "catch up" too. SUBJECT: Re:Interpreting Date: 96-05-22 20:52:30 EST From: Rocketboy University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee has both interpreting programs and deaf ed programs. Its interpreting program leads to certification. SUBJECT: Re:College Grants? Date: 96-05-25 07:28:50 EST From: Dkmcqu You can call your State Special Ed department, or any local college and get a list of grants or scholorship Funds available for the Hearing Impaired. Good luck! SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-05-25 07:37:14 EST From: Dkmcqu Children at any age just want to act and be accepted as normal, signing is odd to him, he doesn't see people around him doing it. My daughter who has a loss of 80 to 90% is now 19. She is learning to sign in college so that she can communicate within that language also. Her speech developed to a normal understanding level (people wouldn't even know that she was HI by her ability to articulate). I couldn't get her to sign either when she was 5 in our case it turn out in her benefit. If you want to talk about raising a child with HI e-mail me DKMCQU SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 96-05-25 17:39:15 EST From: SKATPS ToFenny:. Try Lewis and Clark College In Portland, Oregon..SKATPS SUBJECT: Teaching In Australia/London Date: 96-05-25 17:51:11 EST From: SKATPS I have taught hearing impaired students for many years and am interested in teaching outside the US. Does anyone know a contact in either Australia or London. Thanks SKATPS SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisi. Date: 96-05-25 20:50:42 EST From: MarkMrohs Hi> I have been a special day class teacher of DHH kids for fifteen years. I think the best thing for this parent to do would be to meet some Deaf kids of Deaf parents . In my experience, these are kids with great language and speaking skills and I believe this was due to their immersion in ASL from birth. Good luck. My program is total communication but I totally believe in the Bi philosophy. Just wish our district would agree. EG SUBJECT: Learning to Sign Date: 96-05-29 20:45:28 EST From: IamKelly1 I want to learn sign language.... is there any information/software...etc that I can get on line to help me get the basics? The courses at most colleges in my area don't begin till Sept and are kind of expensive!! Please PLEASE! e-mail me at IAMKELLY1 Thanks so much! SUBJECT: Moving to Florida Date: 96-05-29 22:07:32 EST From: Trelane201 I'm a Teacher of the Deaf and a Speech Therapist, and fluent in Sign. I'm moving to Florida in four weeks, initially based in Fort Lauderdale. If you have any contacts or job leads, please E-mail Sandy at this address. Thanks! SUBJECT: Deaf Ed. position in Fl. Date: 96-06-04 21:26:23 EST From: HFWillis The National Mental Health Institute on Deafness, located in Tampa, Florida is currently looking for a Florida certified teacher for their psychiatric residential treatment program located at Tampa Bay Academy. If you are interested or would like more information, please e-mail Helen at HFWillis SUBJECT: Teaching Regular Ed to Sign Date: 96-06-06 00:27:18 EST From: Lane9695 I am a 6th Grade Teacher in Atlanta, Georgia. We have a 45 minute period where all of our special ed students leave our team. In the past, we have struggled to find things to do with our students and this year I am determined to do some neat and interesting things. I am looking for someone to come to my school and teach a short course in sign language. I am starting from scrach and know NOTHING about this, so I am looking for any help I can get. Does anyone out there know who I might contact to find out if there is someone who might be interested??? Thanks SUBJECT: Teaching reg ed ASL Date: 96-06-06 23:35:49 EST From: Doctawanda If you are interested in teaching American Sign Language (ASL) to students in your school, the best thing to do would be to contact members of Atlanta's local Deaf Community. Someone from that group, who is a fluent native user of ASL, might be willing to volunteer in your classroom, or agree to teach the class for a consultation fee. While sign language is considered by most of the general population to be interesting, it is important to remember first and foremost that it is a language with a structure and history just like English, Spanish, French, etc; it should not be taught from the theoretical premise that it is a hobby or secret code. That's why I recommend that you recruit someone who uses ASL with native fluency. Please feel free to email me if you want some further contacts or information. I'm a doctoral student at Gallaudet University. Doctawanda SUBJECT: Job Search/re-location Date: 96-06-08 20:56:15 EST From: Norski Dee I am looking to re-locate from So. Calif. to Northern Calif. I have 16 yrs. experience with a strong ASL background. Would really appreciate any "leads" anyone may have. Please e-mail to Norski Dee (would love to talk /discuss deaf ed too!) Thx, Dee SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 96-06-08 23:26:02 EST From: WKarsten I am only familiar with schoold on the West Coast - Lewis and Clark College , Portland OR., Western Oregon State College , Monmath OR., CSUN Southern CA. The first 2 offer 1 yr programs, CSUN offers a 2yr program. Good Luck. K.K. SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-06-08 23:37:47 EST From: WKarsten I am wondering what communication he has used up until now? What is the attitude towards sign in the home? Positive or negative? Do all family members sign ALL of the time? If he sees that his family is willing to learn and do it consistently then maybe he will start to pick up his hands. Does he have Deaf peers, adults etc to communicate with? Does he have storybooks that teach sign or have Deaf characters? They also have coloringbooks that teach some sign. Attitude is the biggest influence... take a look and see whats happening. k.k. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Deaf children Date: 96-06-08 23:49:55 EST From: WKarsten I do not have any great ideas at this moment, just wanted to let you know you are completely normal. I too feel swamped with the never ending task of keeping up the with the mainstream class. I teah Jr. High so I can relate to those reports, projects, and endless homework assignments that need to be modified, adapted, or jsut junked! Hang in there and remember that we do the best we can and that we can continue to learn from our students as well as teaching them. bye- k.k. SUBJECT: Info on schools wanted.... Date: 96-06-09 19:11:57 EST From: HFWillis Hello....I'm Helen and I am the teacher for the National Mental Health Institute on Deafness program at Tampa Bay Academy (a psychiatric residential treatment center in Riverview, Florida). I am compiling a list with information regarding various schools that have programs/services for deaf children to use as a guide for post-discharge placement. My students have serious behavioral/emotional problems and generally, ASL is their primary language. I would appreciate any information regarding elementary, middle and high school (residential, self-contained and mainstreamed) programs. I am especially interested in programs that provide EH (emotionally handicapped) services for deaf students. Also, in the primary method of instruction and communication (SEE, ASL, Oral, etc.). Having first hand information will help my efforts in discharge planning! Thanks in advance for any information you send. I've recently "re-discovered" this area, so I will be looking forward to any responses and the great exchanges of ideas and opinions I have enjoyed recently here on the boards....or you can e-mail me at HFWillis. Thanks for reading, Helen SUBJECT: want to learn Date: 96-06-09 20:34:26 EST From: BO TI 55 I would like to become better at signing. I have taken sign 1 class and practice with a workmate who is deaf and am learning from him. Being so busy it's hard to take classes.Do you know of a home study on cd-rom? SUBJECT: Re:Job Search/re-location Date: 96-06-10 19:57:47 EST From: SCroc69521 Hi, I just got on-line and can't believe how many deaf educators are out here.. I've been teaching for 14 years and am the only K-8 teacher in my city.. So, I have the 1 room school house with all the deaf kids in my class. I'm thinking of relocating too.. to either N. CA. or somewhere near New Mexico, or Arizona, or even Las Vegas... I'm not sure I want to stay in the field but I'm curious to know what the job outlook is out in the West.. I'm in Mass. now, so any help would be appreciated.. I'd also like to share in some teaching ideas or strategies anyone may have.. Thanks..Sue SUBJECT: Re:Assessment Date: 96-06-10 21:03:06 EST From: TCHER to:barberann Contact Val Taylor at the Ernest C Drury School in Milton Ontario. Mailing address is 255 Ontario Street South, Milton,Ontario L9T 2M5. She may be ableto help you. SUBJECT: Deaf Ed masters??? Date: 96-06-16 21:47:54 EST From: JDOrcutt My husband is trying to decide where to get his MBA and at the same time I would like to pursue a M.A. in Deaf Ed. Do you know of any programs at or near: Stanford (CA), UCLA (CA), Dartmouth (NH), Cornell (NY), and University of Texas. I have received some info about UT but haven't heard any opinions about the school. I am new to the internet, so if you have any suggestions on where I might find more info, please fill me in. Thanks for your help. J. Orcutt SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-06-17 22:08:42 EST From: MarkMrohs I am a teacher of DHH kids. How about trying videos that use sign language. Gallaudet Book Store has lots of fairy tales that are acted and signed. You could make them available to him and see if this works. Also I would recommend having him play with other children his age who sign. Maybe that would make it more"OK". Good luck. Eliza SUBJECT: Re:Education of DHH Date: 96-06-19 22:20:00 EST From: MarRigby I taught self-contained classes for the deaf and hearing impaired from Sept. '74 until June 1984, when the powers-that-be decided that it was less expensive to send them to a regional program (for oral-aural students) and ASD for those students who depended on total communication. I would like to return to the field in the near future, and am wondering what is new in methods and materials. Any good sources out there? Marilyn SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 96-06-20 23:04:58 EST From: GldnOakBar I am looking over my friends shoulder> Been in deaf ed, 15 yrs, speech/launguage pathologist 3 yrs. Best suggestion. Get interperture in classroom but also have time 1/2 day study hall where you would be able to support and contiune speech/launguage process. A. interperture/tutor B. Stress launguage, basics, reading, etc., C. playtime is best teacher. Remember they are only 5 years old, let them play! SUBJECT: Re:Signing for emergency per Date: 96-06-20 23:16:31 EST From: GldnOakBar Most ASL programs are taught from a sign language book, No specific program made for emergency sign; however, recommed that you contact. Ky. Disaster and Emergency Services, Frankfort, Ky. ASK them to contact Boyle Co.DES Director, who will put you in contact with the fire chief. Boyle Co. has the KY. School for the Deaf. someone there can help you. If that fails contact Ephraim McDowell Hospital, Danville, Ky 40422 ask them for ER personel training for deaf. A progarm does exist; but, it was hand made for KY. Best bet make your own program and publish, it would benefit more than just your team. I was T&E officer for three counties for 17 years while I lived in Ky. Good Luck! SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-06-20 23:21:10 EST From: GldnOakBar Hard love, let him sink or swim. Place him in a School for the Deaf, where he will be forced to learn the language OR find an oral program! SUBJECT: Need Money:Grants Date: 96-06-20 23:44:39 EST From: UFTComDep Looking for a source for grants so we can establish a computer lab connecting deaf and hearing impaired students to AOL and the Internet. Our district says that they can't afford to install tel lines. Does anyone know if AOL offers any assistance? E-mail to us at SP119@aol.com and BillSta@aol.com. Thanks in advance for any leads. SUBJECT: looking for a friend Date: 96-06-30 22:12:30 EST From: JERSYGRL1 I teach special education and have taken several sign language classes. Unfortunately, I have been unable to use my new signing skills regularly. I am very willing to volunteer time to help the hearing impaired, however I have been unsuccessful in finding a place. I live in central New Jersey and I am available all summer. Would it be rude to ask for a deaf friend? SUBJECT: Cued Speech Date: 96-07-01 08:57:48 EST From: CUEFLORIDA You can learn Cued Speech in Houston on July 16 through 28 or in Orlando on July 19-21. Contact CUEFLORIDA@AOL for information or call (941) 355-4194. SUBJECT: Re:Cued Speech Date: 96-07-04 15:43:45 EST From: APepper435 I would be interested to see how you pair cued speech and sign language. I was under the impression that cued speech is an oral method. SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed masters??? Date: 96-07-05 03:19:29 EST From: Norski Dee Calif St Univ. Northridge ( So. Calif.) is very good in the MA of Deaf Ed. Stronly advise it . Good luck and any further questions pls e- mail Norski Dee SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 96-07-07 12:21:15 EST From: DWatson525 Yes I do!!! The probelm with reading and deaf students is that they are presented with two problems...1. they are continually translating from one language to another WHILE they are trying to read and comprehend the text. 2. They do not have a phonetic base to assist them in reading. If the text were composed of their first language, there'd be no problem. Unfortunately it isn't. So the probelm lies with in giving the deaf a phonetic decoding/endcoding so that they can read a spoken language, which is based on sounds. Of course, their ability to HEAR these sounds are limited to their functional hearing. So some type of visual phonetic representation is needed to give them the base needed to read and comprehend a second language. (I'm assuming signs are used in this class) If the child is oral, this visual phonetic system would clarify a spoken language clearly and omitt the guess work that's prevelant with lip reading. This visual phonetic system, Cued Speech, was developed in 1965, by Dr. Orin Cornett, at Galludet University. What prompted him was the EXACT concern you seem to have....deaf students and their reading skills. If you'd like to know more about it, you can contact Awatkins@delphi.com, Lindacue@aol.com, or the National Cued Speech Assoc. at NCSA@aol.com. The NCSA's snail mail add. is NCSA, p. o. box 31345, Raleigh, NC, phone # 919-828-1218. Hope this gives you a place to start. Good luck!!!! D. SUBJECT: Computer Literacy/deaf Date: 96-07-11 08:42:29 EST From: Mar81057 I need to develop goals and objectives in computer literacy for the youmg deaf child age 5-14.There must be some IEP's published out there. Can anyone help? SUBJECT: Re: Help for ASL Date: 96-07-11 16:12:15 EST From: MCDER1776 I have had success with a reluctant 10 year old using the CD Rom "American Sign Language Dictionary". I programmed in the signs I wanted to introduce, and then he practiced identifying them on the computer. He loved it! It also contains concentration type games matching signs or the manual alphabet. Kids love computers. SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobsm Date: 96-07-11 21:14:17 EST From: TheFluid1 my daughter is a senior in high school in Il. She has been taking sign language for 3 yrs and has been volunteering in the special ed program at her school. Any suggestions for schools in the midwest that have great special ed programs? SUBJECT: Re:Help with music ed for de Date: 96-07-13 08:21:52 EST From: Dblmfl Larnott, You may have heard it before, but, I have found that young deaf and hard-of-hearing children love movement and rhythm. It also helps to link this with auditory training and helping them to recognize sounds, volume, and pitch. That would be a big help to their teacher, I'm sure. Check with local resources on how to use their FM systems with your class and how loud you can make the recorded music without hurting their ears or the hearing students' ears. THANKS for your willingness to help these children. It does my heart good to hear about that. DBLMFL SUBJECT: Deaf Ed. (Post Grad.) FL.?? Date: 96-07-15 22:13:39 EST From: Eri1016 I am a special educator with a Masters in Varying Exceptionalities. I am interested in becoming certified to educate children with hearing impairments. Where in Fl can I study?? Thanks! SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 96-07-17 10:29:50 EST From: CanteIshte I have dual BA's in Education of the Hearing Impaired and Elementary Education... am Hard-of-hearing myself, would like to relocate to AK...anyone knowing of job possibilites, please Email me at CanteIshte@aol.com SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 96-07-17 10:34:24 EST From: CanteIshte from personal experience...... don't go to the collier county area.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUBJECT: nonverbal child Date: 96-07-18 20:41:04 EST From: MCCnTMM I am trying to get information regarding the education of noverbal children. Can anyone give me any help as to where I can find this information on AOL or the Internet. Also, I am trying to find if there is any way to access past issues of journals... speceifically the "Journal of Speech and Hearing". I would appreciate any help given to me..... Thank You..... SUBJECT: Help a new teacher! Date: 96-07-18 23:42:21 EST From: DRuminski Hi! I just accepted my first teaching position at a school for the deaf and I could really use some advice. I will be teaching 6th, 7th, and 8th grade English and Reading. Any ideas for first week activities, units, and - especially - age- and language-appropriate novels, etc. would be a big help. Responses can be posted here or through e-mail to DRuminski. Thanks a bunch! SUBJECT: Re:Help a new teacher! Date: 96-07-20 18:38:38 EST From: KySigner My students love video tape lessons--I often do a unit on a book or short story and then have them act it out while being videotaped. Or for more creativity have them work in groups and rewrite the ending, etc., then videotape them. You can also get them to interview people in the school and write articles for a newspaper (lots of good and easy software to produce one) or a newscast--videotape again. If you are in a school for the deaf, you might find a local public school that teaches ASL as a foreign language and get video pals for your students--those projects can easily last a full year, culminating with a picnic etc. with both classes getting together at the end of the year. SUBJECT: Re:Interpreting Date: 96-07-20 18:47:51 EST From: KySigner For info on certification you should contact the Registry of Interpreters for the Deaf, Inc. or the National Association of the Deaf. They are the only national organizations which certify interpreters. RID's current president Daniel Burch and can be reached via email at 74561.1431@compuserve.com He can give you more info. I will tell you that it is a long and expensive process. Sorry I don't have an email address for NAD, but you can get their phone number from directory assistance--The home office is on Thayer Ave. in Silver Spring , MD. Currently RID and NAD have separate evaluation systems, but there are plans to combine them into one national test. Only one state that I know of issues certification and that is Texas. Several states require interpreters to be either nationally certified, or licensed by the state. Usually the licenses come from the Dept. of Education. Locally, I would suggest you contact your local speech and hearing center and ask for the name of their interpreter coordinator. Contact me if you need more info. Don't give up if that is what you really want to do, because there is a tremendous shortage of good interpreters. I began my interpreting career while I was teaching deaf students, and I am now certified and still doing both jobs (but NEVER at the same time!!!) Good luck. SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-07-20 18:52:18 EST From: KySigner Rocketboy--ASL is NOT "baby talk"!!!! It is recognized as a formal language--some places label it a foreign language, but it is more appropriately called a second language. If you were to literally translate ANY foreign language into English, people would call that translation "baby talk" or "bad English". You can never translate verbatim from one lang. to another. Ask any United Nations interpreter. As for Cued Speech, it is NOT a language--it is only a system, much like Morse Code or Braille. It can not be used by itself (only to supplement speechreading). Comparing Cue with ASL is like comparing apples and oranges. Also for your info, some ASL users have used CS when learning foreign languages, but they would never use it to communicate with friends. SUBJECT: Hearing Imp. Teacher Needed! Date: 96-07-24 12:18:47 EST From: KCsmilesl Tupelo, Mississippi, Public School System needs a teacher for the Hearing Impaired for the 1996-97 school year. Please call Jean Smith, SPED Director at (601) 841-8946 if interested. Thank you. SUBJECT: DHH Jobs in IL?? Date: 96-07-31 14:43:22 EST From: JenLScott Hi! I'm a 95 grad of IL State University in DHH and am looking for job postings for IL; specifically the central IL area. I'm new to the internet and AOL so if anyone can help me out by pointing me in the right direction for postings or even a job possibility, I would be very grateful. I also do interpreting (well, transliterating) and would be interested in something salaried in that area, also. Is there a chat area or topic time that we could get on once a week or something to exchange ideas, etc?? I would be interested in starting one up if there is sufficient interest. Please e-mail me at jenlscott@aol.com. :-) SUBJECT: HELP WITH HEARING IMPAIRED Date: 96-08-01 17:18:45 EST From: Latinsi I am mentoring a hearing impaired (not deaf) Spanish speaking 14 yr. old who wants to learn the English language. How can I help him and keep him motivated.He is very smart wand wants to study architecture. SUBJECT: Re:HELP WITH HEARING IMPAIRE Date: 96-08-03 08:19:20 EST From: CTSuess I had a hard of hearing Spanish student. He came at the end of the year with one day's notice. I downloaded several English-Spanish programs from AOL. There were different levels: just words, pharases and sentences. The programs went either way; Spanish-English and English-Spanish. They are set up in a game format. I learned a little Spanish too. It was a good start. Plus it was visual. I also found that his grasp of Spanish was a little lacking also. It helped me because I do not know Spanish. Hope this helps. SUBJECT: EBD and the hearing impaired Date: 96-08-11 14:21:17 EST From: EmeraldMSS I am a teacher of the hearing impaired. My day school for HI has set up a unit for students we serve who are severely EBD. I have been named to teach the highschool class. My privous experience has been with elementary and preschool children and with multi-handicapped hearing impaired children. Anyone who is invovled with a similar class or has had similar experience, I could really use your ideas, what worked for you, what didn't, activities, ideas and things you did to keep yourself focused, healthy and calm. Thanks. Emeraldmss@AOL.com SUBJECT: Re:Teaching Regular Ed to Si Date: 96-08-12 23:27:27 EST From: VirgiCro Hi I have a friend whois deaf but who is wonderful with ASL and kids. She lives in Winder and might be interested in helping you out. If you are interested, please e-mail me at VirgiCro @aol.com. SUBJECT: Re:Teaching reg ed ASL Date: 96-08-12 23:30:09 EST From: VirgiCro Hi This is VirgiCro (Virginia). I will be teaching ASL to high school students this year as a pilot project in NJ in lieu of a foreign language. I would love to chat with you on some of my ideas if you have the time. I am looking to apply for grant money for next summer to attend Gallaudet's summer programs to tune up my fluency. Please contact me at VirgiCro @aol.com- Thanks so much - Virginia M. Cronin SUBJECT: Re:nonverbal child Date: 96-08-14 15:21:27 EST From: TimTrina Hello, I subscribe to JSHR. The number to call for ordering back issues is Product Sales at (301) 897-5700 ext. 218. You can also find back issues in the periodicals section of university and state university libraries. Hope this helps. Trina SUBJECT: Teacher Position in Orlando Date: 96-08-14 22:16:15 EST From: PHenshaw WANTED IMMEDIATELY: Full-time teacher of the deaf for self-contained and mainstreamed program in Orange County, Florida (Orlando) public high school. Current program has 25 students, 2 teachers, and 5 interpreters. To get more info, call Pam Henshaw at (407) 855-2911 ext. 526 and leave voice mail message or e-mail at phenshaw@aol.com. To apply for the position, call Cathy Crawford or Jeri Hanna at (407) 317-3321. SUBJECT: Is it ever 2 early Date: 96-08-18 10:07:22 EST From: Mikie140 I'm interested inteaching deaf students in the furure.I'm 14 yrs. old and i was wondering if now is to early to learn sign language?I can use it now alot should i learn it??? Mikie 140@aol.com SUBJECT: Re:Is it ever 2 early Date: 96-08-18 20:10:33 EST From: SusanS29 Mikie it's never too early to learn it, and I would think it would be a great advantage to be fluent in it before you get to college. SUBJECT: Reviews Date: 96-08-22 11:50:01 EST From: AmyPooh669 Hi! I teach both ASL and SEE in an in-home program designed to help parents with deaf and MH children. I have no problem with the lessons, but I am tired of doing the same old reviews over and over! Can anyone give me any suggestions of some fun and creative ways to design review lessons? Please e-mail me at AmyPooh669. All suggestions appreciated!!! SUBJECT: Re:Help with music ed for de Date: 96-08-22 11:55:30 EST From: AmyPooh669 One of the most important things you can do when working with deaf children is to give them something visual! Use pictures and other aids to enhance the music lesson. All children like to play instruments; even if they can't hear them, they can feel the sounds they make. Tambourines, small drums and other instruments delight every player. Get the kids PHYSICALLY involved in the music, teach a dance or movements to the beat. Ask the kids for their ideas, and use some of them! You don't have to hear to appreciate and enjoy music!!! SUBJECT: Re:Learnign Sign Language Date: 96-08-22 12:00:57 EST From: AmyPooh669 First you and your husband need to decide which sign system u would like to use, ASL or SEE. There are several excellent dictionaries and manuals that have videotapes designed to go with them. A few are: ABC: A Basic course in Communication, Learning ASL, and Teaching and Learning Signing Exact English. The best ASL dictionary I have ever found is titled "The American Sign Language Dictionary", which was compiled by Elaine Costello and published by Random House. I believe there is also a CD-ROM version of this dictionary. Good Luck to you both, and to Rory! SUBJECT: Re:Interpreting Date: 96-08-22 12:04:11 EST From: AmyPooh669 Hi! I'm a 'terp from KS...maybe this will help. Look up your state comission for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing. They will have all the information u need to get going on the right track. They can also keep u apprised of up and coming legislation that affects Deaf and HOH people, as well as professional events u might be interested in. If u run into a dead-end, feel free to mail me! AmyPooh669 SUBJECT: Re:ASL as first language Date: 96-08-22 12:13:45 EST From: AmyPooh669 As u know by now, this is a very heated debate! I am a hearing person who grew up exposed to SEE (a form of sign language that has a one-to-one correspondance of signs to spoken English). I am an interpreter at the college level, and I also teach both ASL and SEE. No, ASL does NOT have to be a child's first language. It can be English! I have found that SEE is very useful at home and in the classroom setting, and is an aid to better English skills. If your daughter can hear some, and is doing well with English, there is no reason why she can't have both! Most of my friends (who are deaf) grew up in a public school setting with SEE. They have good English skills and communicate very well. However, we all also use ASL on a regular basis, as it is a rich and colorful language that affords expression that is simply not found in spoken English. My advice to you is this: do what you, not the school, thinks is best for your daughter at this time. Remember, you can always change or adapt your usage to your families needs. Your daughter will not be in school her entire life, and it is your job to help give her the tools she needs to be happy and successful. Let her give you clues about what she needs and wants and follow her lead!!! SUBJECT: Re:culture & deaf education Date: 96-08-22 12:15:54 EST From: AmyPooh669 Write to my boyfriend, who is deaf, and who will pursue a master in deaf ed. at Educatrman. SUBJECT: Re:Non-verbal students Date: 96-08-22 14:55:49 EST From: IA HWKI 94 Hi...I am a new teacher of students 18-21 with moderate/severe disabilites in a transition program. I am looking for ideas for one of my students....a 20 year old female who is deaf. She reads lips but does no verbalizations of her own. I am looking into some voice synth. software for my CD ROM...any ideas would be greatly appreciated...as would any other ideas!!! Thanks...Sarah SUBJECT: Teaching ASL Date: 96-08-24 22:12:33 EST From: KySigner Amy, Virginia and other ASL teachers... Go to the Foreign Language Message Board--there is now a board for ASL teachers!!! :) SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 96-08-24 22:15:06 EST From: KySigner The important thing is not which method to use (because you will find advocates with strong arguments on both sides), but the consistency--You must give your deaf child as much exposure to language as possible, as early as possible! I used to work with the SKI*HI program, which teaches parents how to work with their deaf children, ages birth - 3 yrs. Email me if you have specific questions, or if I can be of any help. SUBJECT: Re:Reviews Date: 96-08-25 09:47:15 EST From: HLC 594 Hi! I don't have any suggestions but would like to talk to you more about the work you are doing. I teach in a public school class for children with multiple handicaps. I have severel students who are deaf/multihandicapped. I have not been able to find many people who work with this population to share with and learn from. Interested? -Holly SUBJECT: teaching oral HOH students Date: 96-08-25 22:43:59 EST From: NorShhhMom I am a mother of a 9yo HOH son he is mainstreamed going into 4th grade. He has a TOD and speech therapist. Most of the time I feel the TOD doesn't know what to do for him. In 1st grade he told her he did not want to be signed to anymore. He does fine with auditory cues, but needs practice in auditory training which I find the TOD does not have much experience in and the speech therapist doesn't feel it is her role. I perceive that "deaf/HOH educational practices" are really for the profoundly deaf who is manual. I get so frustrated to find information specifically addressing the HOH kid who hears pretty good with his hearing aids. These children had special challenges trying to hear through poor aucostics, missing auditory cues, interfering noises, etc... If anyone out there shares the same frustrations I would love to hear from you. E-mail me at NorShhhMom. Thanks SUBJECT: RE: Deaf education Date: 96-08-27 01:00:26 EST From: AmparoS I have a deaf 9 year old daughter. She has been mainstreamed full time since kindergarten in a regular public school. An interpreter is provided to her at all times. There is a special day class for the deaf on campus. She is a GATE student but does not excel in her regular academic classes. We are a hearing family but we all sign SEE at home. I feel she would benefit from more interaction with other deaf children and families. Any suggestions? SUBJECT: Re:RE: Deaf education Date: 96-08-27 05:48:22 EST From: SCroc69521 Hi, I am a teacher of the deaf and I really feel your 9 yr. old would benefit alot from meeting other deaf kids. Do you have an Office of Deafness, or someplace you could get info from on deaf events or happenings in your area? Does your child have other deaf classmates? I teach in public school but have 10 kids in my class and only mainstream them where it's appropriate.. It's a challenge.. but they enjoy both their worlds..Let me know if I can be of more help..Sue SUBJECT: Re:College Grants? Date: 96-08-27 18:18:57 EST From: Peppytony You might want to try asking in the deaf and hard of hearing bulletin boards about this. There is a folder for schools etc. In keyword type: deaf, then go into bulletin/ message boards... good luck. SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 96-08-29 20:10:53 EST From: MRS77 anyone out there know where I can go for job listings for a teacher of spec. ed. deaf students please e-mail me at MRS77@aol.com SUBJECT: adv/dis for sign in elem. Date: 96-08-29 22:37:01 EST From: H20 BUG26 Hi everyone, i'm a student going for my masters in ed. going crazy because I had a paper due yesterday. My topic is the advantages and disadvantages of adding sign to the elem. curriculum. I believe that with the increasing numbers of students being mainstreamed that it would be a great benefit for both the hearing and non-hearing students to be able to communicate. Unfortunately, I can not find any research to confirm or deny my hypothesis. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail me because i doubt i could find this page again. Thank you in advance for your time----Tammy e-mail me at h20bug26 SUBJECT: Re:Reviews Date: 96-09-05 12:53:54 EST From: IA HWKI 94 Hi...I am teacher of a student with Deafness and moderate mental disabilities. She is 19 going on 20 and we are looking for ideas for working with her...anyone with ideas for jobs and activities...please email at: iahwki94 SUBJECT: speech/gifted Date: 96-09-08 23:07:29 EST From: Aslisa1216 Hi, my name is Lisa Allan and I am a grad student in deaf ed at U of North Florida. I am researching two topics this semester. I would very much appreciate input. The first is teaching speech to deaf/hoh students. Beneficial, waste of time...? The second is the appropriatness of placement of deaf/hoh gifted students. Are his/her needs being met...should he/she be somewhere else....? Please indicate if you are deaf/hearing/hoh, parent/teacher/student. I will be happy to share my results with you. Feel free to e-mail me privatly. Thanks for your time. Lisa aslisa1216 SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 96-09-11 15:45:04 EST From: SwtTxLdy I am a deaf education teacher in McAllen, Texas. Our Regional Day School Program is currently looking for a teacher to fill a deaf education position at the middle school level. If anyone is interested, please contact the following. Dan Diffee, Director RDSPD McAllen , Texas (210) 971-4500 SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 96-09-11 18:10:17 EST From: LeeannLTL Dear Lori, I just got your msg. today. I am a deaf teacher, who was raised oral. I have 5 deaf students in my inclusion class. They are doing very well, with their hearing peers. I have shown them that there are people out there who are deaf and have succeeded. I also sign fluently, and that encourages them also. I encourage you to look into doing more for those who need help and to sign with them. Good luck! SUBJECT: VSDB teachers/ certification Date: 96-09-11 21:34:25 EST From: Aslisa1216 Hi, I was wondering if any Virginia School for the Deaf teachers can tell me the requirements for teaching in VA and in that school...certification, experience, degree, sign skill, and anything that I could be doing to really add to my resume. I am a deaf ed grad student, will do my internship in January, graduate in August with certification, and hopefully get hired somewhere (preferablly VSDB) in Sept. Thanks! Lisa SUBJECT: deaf education--schools Date: 96-09-13 06:41:00 EST From: Jabybaby I am going to go back to school and get my masters in deaf education. Does anyone know of a university/college with a good program in this field. I currently live in Atlanta and would prefer to stay in the area, However, I would appreciate info. on any schools. Thank YOu. Julie SUBJECT: Re:deaf education--schools Date: 96-09-13 17:32:31 EST From: JMARSH1967 Check out Georgia State University. Just call them. I went to University of North Florida in Jacksonville, Florida. They have a great program too. Jmarsh1967 SUBJECT: interpreter tutor position Date: 96-09-15 19:08:50 EST From: MissB19103 School in NH looking for full time interpreter tutor to work with multiply handicapped deaf students . If interested contact Human Resources, Crotched Mt. Rehab Center, Greenfield, NH o3047 603-547-3311 ext 212 SUBJECT: NCID Clearinghouse info Date: 96-09-15 19:18:13 EST From: AndriaGEE Hi! Just wanted to let interested educators know there is a clearinghouse available free of charge with valuable information... call 202-651-5105... we do research for you, connect you with services, assistive devices, etc. SUBJECT: Deaf/Multiple disabilities job Date: 96-09-15 19:25:18 EST From: AndriaGEE Hi, I went back to school because I thought I wanted a PHD-smile... I want to go back to the classroom! I am presently employed at the National INformation Center on Deafness, Gallaudet... have 20+ years, skilled in sign, lots of interesting talents and experiences. Looking for friendly community and moderate climate. Please email if u know of any positions... NICD is a great place to work but I miss the classroom. SUBJECT: Re:multi-handicapped/HOH Date: 96-09-16 21:24:56 EST From: Atltola I am also an DHH Itinerant teacher and really need help with 2 kids who are DHH and also have CP. One has severe tactile defensiveness, which I am just now learning about and need more info. The more involved 4 year boy can not keep is amplification on because of involuntary and voluntary head movements. Please give me any suggestions that you have. Thanks. EGH SUBJECT: Re:deaf education Masters prog Date: 96-09-16 22:51:30 EST From: Terytoes Fresno State has a wonderful program! But youhalf to travel to CA! SUBJECT: masters program questions Date: 96-09-18 17:54:49 EST From: OLLIEGA This may sound ignorant but... I am a recent graduate with my certification in early childhood ed. I want to start on my masters shortly. My question is.. what is the difference in a masters in deaf education and a masters in hearing imparment? I originally wanted a masters in deaf ed, but there are no schools in Georgia that offer the program. Georgia state however offers one in Hearing imparemtne. I just don't know what exactly the difference is.. Any help is appreciated. Thank you. Julie SUBJECT: Re:Cochear Implant parent mai. Date: 96-09-21 17:40:53 EST From: MiMiCook I am a special ed teacher working with a student in 8th grade with a cochlear implant. He is fully included. Tried emailing you, but invalid name came up. If you want to correspond, email me (MiMiCook@aol.com) SUBJECT: Deaf Ed Jobs!! Date: 96-09-23 21:24:15 EST From: Awacked I agree with the previous reply. MISSOURI is in great need!! I Student taught at Missouri School for the deaf three years ago. I couldn't move because my husband is in the military in Oklahoma, but I had several job offers!! If Missouri isn't feasable, no matter where you are, because of ADA, interpreters are always needed, call the local branch of Human Services, or State Voc- Rehab and ask about interpreter certification!! Good Luck!! It's a rewarding field, but not many willing people to take the time to learn about the culture, or the opportunities. SUBJECT: Re:SPEECH ACQUIS.-HEARING IM Date: 96-09-23 21:27:04 EST From: Awacked Contact Galludet University, thier media center has many, many, many references. Also if you have access to a pre school for the deaf, I mean young children, around 2 or 3, it's amazing how different the language aquisition is, both in Sign Language, and English. SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquis Date: 96-09-23 21:31:21 EST From: Awacked Assimple as this will sound, a lot of parents don't realize how many "signs" are already in our everyday language. General gestures( shruggs, points, illustrators etc), but if it doesn't work, try asking them to watch some movies ( with thier children) "Children of a lessor God", and Silent Cry, both are Marlie Matlin movies, Don't forget about Miss America, and maybe introduce her to other adults who sign, and use speech. SUBJECT: Re:Assessment Date: 96-09-23 21:34:21 EST From: Awacked Plenty!!! Language Arts Curriculum Guide, Gallaudet University (Kendall Demonstration Elementry School) and also any Speech-Language Pathologist can help with language assessments especially for pre-school aged children.. Good Luck SUBJECT: Re:College Grants? Date: 96-09-23 21:37:53 EST From: Awacked Go to your local Library, look for the scholorship aid books. There are some scholorships for individuals who are deaf through the Alexander Bel Grahm foundation, and Always apply for federal aid,(call Galladet's FA office), many times goverment will allow up to 1500.00 semester in grants, and also check with voc-rehab, many times they have been known to pay for books,and supplies. As a graduate, I know , every thing helps!! Good Luck!! SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 96-09-29 17:34:20 EST From: User422376 I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROPOSAL TO EDUCATE HEARING TEACHERS IN THE USE OF SIGN LANGUAGE. I WORK IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AFTE HAVING WORKED AS AN AIDE IN A SCHOOL FOR THE DEAF. I'M LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TO THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO INSTITUTE A PROGRAM IN WHICH I WOULD TEACH HEARING TEACHERS SIGN LANGUAGE. AS TEACHERS IN THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SETTING, WOULD YOU PARTICIPATE IN A TEACHER TRAINING PROGRAM FOR SIGN LANGUAGE. AS STUDENTS, WOULD YOU FEEL YOU WOULD BE BETTER ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR TEACHER, IF HE/SHE AT LEAST KNEW SOME SIGN LANGUAGE? AS STUDENTS, WOULD YOU STILL FEEL THE NEED FOR AN AIDE IF YOUR TEACHER WAS WELL VERSED IN SIGN LANGUAGE? AS STUDENTS, MAINSTREAMED INTO THE CLASSROOM, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH DAY TO DAY? WITH FACULTY? WITH ADMNISTRATION?WITH OTHER CLASSMATES? WHAT ARE STUDENT SUGGESTIONS FOR BETTER PREPARED TEACHERS IN DEALING WITH A NEW SITUATION THAT HAS NEVER ARISEN IN THEIR CLASSROOM BEFORE, SUCH AS HAVING A CHILD THERE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR OR HEARS VERY LITTLE? HOW CAN WE HELP MAKE IT EASIER? THE SCHOOL WILL NOT HIRE A DEAF PERSON. THEREFORE, I, AS A HEARING PERSON WANT TO INSTITUE SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP REG. ED TEACHERS BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH MAINSTREAMED HEARING IMPAIRED/DEAF CHILDREN IN OUR SCHOOLS. I REALIZE THIS MAY, AT TIMES, BE A CONTROVERSIAL SUBJECT, YET I BELIEVE , IF ANYTHING, IT WILL HELP TEACHERS TO BE BETTER ABLE TO HANDLE THE SITUATION SHOULD IT ARISE IN THEIR CLASSROOM. I WOULD REALILY APPRECIATE ANY FEEDBACK FROM HEARING, DEAF, HEARING IMPAIRED TEACHERS, PARENTS AND STUDENTS. PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT 422376 @AOL.COM SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 96-09-29 17:51:18 EST From: SusanS29 Thank you for the post, but please -- don't use ALLCAPS when you post. It's hard to read, and it's how we show that we're "SHOUTING" on line. Thanks. SusanS29, Host SUBJECT: Deaf/Computer Education Date: 96-10-01 17:29:39 EST From: Sascha1 I have an 8 year old client who is deaf, developmentally disabled and some mild behaviors. He is not in deaf school or mainstreamed because of behavior. He has his own computer and learns well on it, but there is no material specifically for deaf children, who read minimally. Can you help? SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-10-12 12:00:15 EST From: LLBizhan Satyre EMT, This note is over one year old....I'm curious how you're progress is coming along with your son. I am a teacher at the California School for the Deaf in Fremont. Instead of teaching your son ASL, just start using it among the family and naturally bring your child into the conversation. He wants to be the same as you and may feel that he's different if expected to use sign only when you are conversing with him directly. Again, I hope this problem has been solved. I teach in the Jr. High department and have seen so many incoming students who have been cheated out of an education. They have not used ASL and other Bilingual Educational techniques and the children are the ones who have suffered. Then they send them to us and we are expected to pick up the pieces. Good Luck again. SUBJECT: His parents DON'T Sign Date: 96-10-15 17:42:53 EST From: MC Fritz HELP!!! I am a Deaf Educator in mainstream program. I am frustrated and highly concerned!!!!! I have a kindergaten student who's expressive language is minimal. He has been through our early-intervention program for 4 years. I happen to think the program is good....lots of language exposure, ASL, SEE, Voice! Yet, his expressive and receptive lanaguge is much below what it should be. We are doing our best but we need family help as well. But, parents don't sign !!!Through the years, they've been offered free sign classes, we've done home visits, provided tons of information, What can I do to motivate or make them understand the absolute critical imprtance of modeling language for their child in the home? Parents out there....what more can I say to these parents? SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-10-15 23:22:37 EST From: Joeloga Hi. Just a suggestion. If you could find out about the possiblity of any local deaf communitty events that may feature a deaf story teller, my guess is that your son may not turn his head quite so quickly. Check with your local resource center or res. school or deaf ed. program and find out if there are any upcoming get togethers planned where story telling using asl would be involved. Being around peers who sign is also a huge incentive. Good luck! Joe in Tucson SUBJECT: res. vs. mainstream Date: 96-10-15 23:36:05 EST From: Joeloga i am currently working on a research project and looking at the current state of affairs in us state residential schools for the deaf. with all of the debate about least restrictive environment and just what is the most appropriate setting for deaf students, there has been a large exodus from state res. schools and into public mainstream programs. the info i am interested in is not necessarily to engage in the debate about which setting is more appropriate, but i am rather interested in just what is happening in other res. schools around the country?? are there folks out there who would be interested sharing some insight as to the "state of affairs" in their local res. schools regarding enrollment, trends, etc.? thanks much joe SUBJECT: rural deaf ed Date: 96-10-20 12:20:12 EST From: Queenouniv I currently teach three deaf students in rural Texas. I am hoping to find suggestions for cultural and social experiences for my three boys ages 10, 11, and thirteen. Does anyone have possible pen pals--email or otherwise for my students. Their written language is relatively limited (first to second grade) but their motiviation for communication is high. Anyone who has suggestions for raising their reading level would also be appreciated. Thanks Sarah Queenouniv@aol.com SUBJECT: HALLOWEEN IDEAS Date: 96-10-20 14:01:34 EST From: TEACHER333 I am desperately searching for lessons and/or ideas to complete a Halloween unit for a class of 6 deaf kindergarteners: 2 are profoundly deaf, 2 are severly deaf, and 2 have been successfully cochlear implanted. Halloween is just around the corner, so please e-mail TEACHER333@aol as soon as possible, PLEASE! Thanks so much..... SUBJECT: Nephew needs your help... Date: 96-10-21 12:04:10 EST From: LEXICONS I have a six-year-old nephew with a profound sensorineural hearing loss unilaterally. His audiologist has suggested an auditory training unit in which the teacher wears a microphone and a speaker is placed in the ceiling. The teacher's voice will be amplified to a level 12db above noise level. The teacher is very receptive although the school is private and cannot afford the unit. Any ideas on grants available or possible funding ideas will be greatly appreciated. Estimated cost of the unit is $850. Thanks so much for your time. He's a great kid! LEXICON SUBJECT: Re:Nephew needs your help... Date: 96-10-23 17:07:57 EST From: Nbowneg Hi. I'm a teacher in upstate NY. We have had help in the past from the Lions in getting TTYs for kids who couldn't pay for them. Maybe they'd be able to help you. Nancy SUBJECT: Deafness and Cerebral Palsy Date: 96-10-23 19:24:41 EST From: Atltola I have four year old student with severe CP who is profoundly Deaf. I need ideas on how to assess his receptive sign learning and any ideas on how to increases his learning in general. He is in a special school DH class but his mom feels he is normal kid in a CP body. Home language is not English and school language is. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated in terms of teaching and assessment. Thanks. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 96-10-27 13:51:34 EST From: JHoltzi I teach science to deaf students in a school for the deaf. I find that the majority of students I receive are language delayed. Their written language is more than two years below grade level. This can be caused by a combination of things. HOME: Parents and siblings stop talking to the deaf child, instead "putting" him/her where they want him/her, ordering him/her around instead of doing the chatting that goes on in homes. Their own ability to communicate through intelligable sign language (yes, ASL is a grammatical language) is minimal. Speech reading is made difficult by the hearing sibling/parent's non-understanding of the easiest ways to enhance their visual speech. The child may be bounced from program to program as the family moves around the country. Learning disabilities, organic problems including fetal alchohol symndrome, the influence of addictions of family members..... Sometimes the deafness is not diagnosed at birth (the child learns the basis of the 1st language during the first three years and builds thereafter)....the list is endless. SCHOOL: Interpreters are often being used as aides in the classroom more than as interpreters. I have seen interpreters whose signing skills need improvement. The isolating factor of deafness and the presence of an interpreter can distacne the child from his/her peers; after the novelty wears off, many hearing children stop trying to communicate on their own with the deaf child. The one-on-one"ness" with the interpreter can teach dependency (I have had students come to me from the mainstream who are unable to work with others in a small group, needing the 1:1). Some teachers do not require the deaf child to PRODUCE written work of the quality or even quantity of hearing peers; the child may be so language delayed that this is not possible. Please do not assess any deaf child on the fact that he/she "sits quietly and has a sweet personality." Passiveness is not a form of active learning. WHAT YOU CAN DO: Read to the child, read with the child, require that he/she read at least 20 minutes without interruption daily. Start and maintain a dialogue journal, where you write back and forth to each other. Require lots of illustrations and LABELING of same with short paragraphs explaining functions, feelings, and reactions. Use mapping and webbing exercises to foster deeper understanding of concepts. Require oral/signed (or computer assisted..."Power Point") presentations of some stories/projects. Make outlines and require rough drafts of written research/expository, etc. projects. Talk to the child, chat, tell jokes. Learn to sign (take a class or three!) Learn accurate fingerspelling skills. If you feel this child is not succeeding in your class (frustration, passiveness, tuning out, acting out, etc) run, don't walk, to the nearest person/facility dedicated to the education of deaf children, for example, a school for the deaf. Set up a visitation for the child and family and YOU. None of us can afford to lose these potential leaders of the deaf community at large to languish in an educational setting that is not successful. It does not mean that you are a bad teacher. It may mean that this child need communication around him/her all the time from everyone in his/her school environment. There ARE deaf children who do very well in the mainstreamed/inclusion model. I ask you to be aware that there are also those who would achieve better in a setting where everyone can communicate with him/her. Good luck! :-) SUBJECT: Re:Socialization For Deaf Ch Date: 96-10-27 13:55:33 EST From: JHoltzi Unless your school is associated with a summer camp for the deaf, I don't see how you could add an IEP goal for this kind of socialization. BUT>>>> Ask your school if they are close enought to a school for the deaf for your child to attend special functions, ie., leadership conferences, homecoming, science fairs, scouts, sports, swim night (if they have a pool), etc. Also, check out some of the pen pal possibilities (English IEP goal!) with students at some of the deaf schools around the country. Do a search for their web pages and go for it. SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 96-10-27 13:57:17 EST From: JHoltzi This is beacuse they are language delayed. This is not uncommon for deaf students. You can" read to them, read with them, establish dialog journals (you will find they might not write on as high a level as your other students). Do you have interpreteres? Aides? a resource room? SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 96-10-27 14:08:07 EST From: JHoltzi I prefer teaching deaf kids in a school for the deaf. At my school, the Oregon School for the Deaf, about half are residential....and we have an awesome dorm program, very supportive of the academic program. The main reason I love this job is that everyone can communicate with everyone else. The means that from the janitor to the principal, all can communicate! We use ASL and speech, gestures, mine....whatever works! Our students have equal opportunities to social opportunites offered by public schools everywhere. SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 96-10-28 11:33:49 EST From: SusanS29 JH is there any chance of getting more deaf students "on line" to talk with each other? SUBJECT: "Welcome to Holland" Date: 96-10-30 22:22:18 EST From: ILSign4You Hello fellow educators!! I recently found this article and I thought I would share: "Welcome to Holland" "I am often asked to describe the experience of raising a child with a disability--to try to help people who have not shared that unique experience to understand it, to imagine how it would feel. It's like this.... "When you're going to have a baby, it's like planning a fabulous vacation trip--to Italy. You buy a bunch of guidebooks and make your wonderful plans. The Coliseum. The Michelangelo David. The gondolas in Venice. You may learn some handy phrases in Italian. It's all very exciting. "After months of eager anticipation, the day finally arrives. You pack your bags and off you go. Several hours later, the plane lands. The stewardess comes in and says, ' Welcome to Holland.' "'HOLLAND?!?', you say. ' What do you mean, Holland? I signed up for Italy! I'm supposed to be in Italy. All my life I've dreamed of going to Italy.'" "But there's been a change in the flight plan. They've landed in Holland and there you must stay. "The important thing is that they haven't taken you to a horrible, disgusting, filthy place, full of pestilence, famine and disease. It's just a different place. "So you must go out and buy new guidebooks. And you must learn a whole new language. And you will meet a whole new group of people you would never have met. "It's just a different place. It's slower-paced that Italy, less flashy than Italy. But after you've been there for a while and you catch your breath, you look around, and you begin to notice that Holland has windmills, Holland has tulips. Holland even has Rembrandts. "But everyone you know is busy coming and going from Italy, and they're all bragging about what a wonderful time they had there. And for the rest of your life, you will say, 'Yes, that's where I was supposed to go. That's what I had planned.' "And the pain of that will never, ever, ever go away, because the loss of that dream is a very significant loss. "But if you spend your life mourning the fact that you didn't get to Italy, you mau never be free to enjoy the very special, very lovely things about Holland." Emily Perl Kingsley Hope you enjoyed it! SUBJECT: modes of communication Date: 96-11-05 11:25:10 EST From: Espana93 I am a Spanish bilingual elementary teacher presently in graduate school for Speech Language Pathology. I am researching modes of communication that are currently used in the education of deaf children. If there is anyone out there who can give me some good info or can at least point me in the direction of some good info -- I would be very appreciative. My e-mail address is: Espana93(@aol.com) Thanx in advance, Cathy Bruno SUBJECT: LRE Date: 96-11-05 23:12:58 EST From: Dave1Jen2 Can anyone give me LRE information.....Deaf parent and Deaf child want to go to residential school. Public school is not appropriate, in this case. Any legal cases that might support a child going to residential school?? SUBJECT: Re:res. vs. mainstream Date: 96-11-07 12:12:00 EST From: Dave1Jen2 hi joe, do you have information about about legal cases and LRE?? SUBJECT: Re:Info on schools wanted... Date: 96-11-07 12:35:23 EST From: Dave1Jen2 Helen, did you get the information you needed??? Center on Deafness in Framingham, Mass. has a supurb program. I do not have the address or phone nbr., but you can easily find it. The program works specificially with EH Deaf children. The Center gears their philosophy towards Deaf culture ie, strong ASL, Deaf role models, strong family involvement, etc..... The Program has been highly successful. SUBJECT: combined methods Date: 96-11-07 13:59:37 EST From: JoanE155 I am teaching in a preschool Cued Speech classroom in a school district that offers three separate programs: Oral, Cued Speech and TC. We are discussing combining the three programs, at least at the preschool level. We are debating whether to offer three separate classes in one school, or creating a bilingual program that teaches both ASL and English using Cued Speech. Any similar thoughts, experiences out there? WE would truly love to hear what you have seen, done, think about this approach. Many thanks! SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Students Date: 96-11-07 14:04:02 EST From: JoanE155 Hi Lori: I work with deaf preschoolers. I am also working on a dissertation on inclusion and I am interested in exploring the levels of support that teachers (spec ed and regular ed) receive from administrators in relation to inclusion. It sound from your message like you might have some insights to share. I would appreciate hearing some of your perspectives. Thanks, Joan SUBJECT: Re:Language and Speech Aquisi. Date: 96-11-07 14:12:12 EST From: JoanE155 Dear Ruff: I just read your year-old message about setting up a bilingual program and I am dying to know how things turned out. WE are embarking on this endeavor in our preschool. So how did things turn out? How did you teach English? WE are in a cued speech program and see wonderful results in terms of teaching literacy, but we want to include ASL/Deaf Culture as well. What has your experience been and what kind of program were/are you in: residential, public, private? Many THanks, Joan SUBJECT: Re:Lang and Speech Aquisitio Date: 96-11-07 14:17:49 EST From: JoanE155 Dear Brhilda: I am intrigued by your message about signs leading to speech dev. (I realize that is old, but I have just logged onto this area). I teach in a Cued Speech preschool in a school district that offers three separate program: Cued Speech, Oral and TC. we are examining the practicality of offering a combined preschool program, and going with a bilingual approach. Would you care to share any insights/perspectives on this idea? Many THanks, JOan SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 96-11-07 14:22:59 EST From: JoanE155 I know that this is a late response to your message about teaching deaf children in reg ed programs. Are you still looking for ideas? I teach in a Cued Speech program and would be happy to share info and let you know about some other sources of info. Cued Speech has proven to be very effective in helping improve deaf students English acuitisition and is not in conflict with ASL, so essentially they can be bilingual/bicultural and succeed in both communities. Let me know if you'd like to explore this area further. JOan SUBJECT: Re:Cued Speech Date: 96-11-07 19:56:46 EST From: JoanE155 Cued Speech is Not a method, it is a tool that helps students to learn spoken English. You can speak to deaf students without using cues (commonly referred to as Oral method) or using cues. When Cued Speech is involved, it is an oral method because you are speaking, not because of the cues. Cues help to distinguish all of the different speech sounds that are not readily recognized by the deaf "listener" (for example, "m", "p", "b"). Cued speech is not a language, or a method of communication in itself, it is a tool that work in tandem with speaking. ASL, on the other hand is a language apart from English. Therefore ASL and Cued Speech do not conflict, just as speaking two different languages (English & Spanish) do not conflict. The problem occurs when you combine the two languages, such as what happens with signed English, just as a problem would arise if one spoke to a child in two differnet languages simultaneously. It is the opinion of many professionals that deaf individuals would do well to be taught both English (using Cued Speech) and ASL to have the benefit of both languages and culutres. I, for one, support that approach. SUBJECT: Re:Help a new teacher! Date: 96-11-07 20:02:04 EST From: JoanE155 Hi, sorry this is late, but if you are still looking for advice, contact Dave Schlepper at the Model Secondary School for the Deaf. I don't know his direct number, but he is on the campus of Gallaudet U. in Wash, D.C. The main number is (202) 651-5000. I'm sure Dave has email. He is the reading specialist there and has some wonderful ideas about whole language that has worked beautifully with deaf students. Even tho he is in the h.s. I am sure his ideas span many age ranges. Hope this helps! Good luck SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 96-11-07 20:12:07 EST From: JoanE155 Dear KYSIGNER: I would love to see any information about your SKI*HI program. I work with parent/infnat and preschool and am always looking for ideas. Not so much in curriculum, althought that would always be welcome, but ways in which to get parents involved. I agree about that consistency thing! By the way, did you use one method of communication, or were you and your families free to try different approaches? SUBJECT: Re:His parents DON'T Sign Date: 96-11-07 20:24:22 EST From: JoanE155 One suggestion... Cued Speech. It helps teach English better than voice alone can, so the student benefits. Many parents say it is easier to learn, because it is a finite system of 8 hand shapes. So parents and child can use it for communicating at home, and the student can still use Signing in school for learning new voc. and concepts. SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs!! Date: 96-11-08 19:59:35 EST From: JHoltzi Also, the pay is usually less than that of regular public school teachers. JH SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 96-11-08 20:02:11 EST From: JHoltzi Youbet! On out local network, each hh student has a staff pen pal that keeps in touch at least twice weekly, modelling appropriate email ettiquette and good English (hopefully!). It's lots of fun. Our students also penpal with students in other schools across the nation. JH SUBJECT: Mainstreaming Date: 96-11-09 10:53:41 EST From: User422376 I am interested in the views of those who are deaf and those who are not re: mainstreaming of students within public education setting. I am writing a proposal which would be used to better train the staff to work with these children (elementary age K-6) As of this moment, I am one teacher in an area where there are 6 elementary schools. Although we have special needs programs, bilingual programs etc.... we do have some children (5 at his time) who have been mainstreamed and two on their way to us. I am not a certified Sign Language Interpreter, yet have taken courses and worked in a school for the deaf previously as well as have a few friends who are deaf and feel more qualified than some, yet not as qualified as I probably should be once these children reach my classroom to teach them well. What I'm trying to State in the proposal is that we need to look at the situation which is arising. A total of4 teachers in the system, (all at elementary level, know some Sign Language, have taken course, but none are fluent enough or certified to deal with everyday situations at hand that may arise without running to a dictionary to look up the signs. I'm hoping with this proposal that we'll be able to get auditiory trainors within the buildings and staff development will be able to prepare the teachers before the child is there and many "don't know what to do" because they don't know Sign Language (either ASL or . (S.E.E.) There is also the issue of Deaf Culture and teachers understanding this as to what is and is not appropriate. If some of you, both hearing and deaf, could respond to my E-mail address at 422376 @ aol. com, I would appreciate your views as to whether; Do you see mainstreaming as a good idea although teachers are not prepared? Do you feel teachers within your system would be willing to take workshops to prepare them for mainstreaming? E mail adress 422376 @ aol. com. No names will be used in the proposal. All info will be kept confidential. This is being done as part of a class which is teaching me to write proposals. Thank you. I'd like to have respondes from both deaf and hearing teachers, students, etc... as well. Do you feel students would benefit in their academics from not only a one on one aide in the classroom but with a teacher who at least can related to them in a conversational form with some Sign Language? Do you feel financially the State Department of Education and/or your School System would not even consider these workshops? Please relate any ideas and/or situations you have come across in the past with mainstreaming as a teacher. as a student, as a parent. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Date: 96-11-09 13:15:02 EST From: JoanE155 Personally, I think it is a Terrible idea to mainstream any kind of student in with a teacher who is not prepared to serve his or her needs. It is my experience that some teachers are willing to get the extra training, but then the question is whether or not the system is able or willing to provide the training. I wonder how a reg ed principal can provide that trainig or even the opportunity to be trained when he or she may not know enough about what is needed. I think a proposal is a good idea, because that would help adm's to understand what the needs are. Whether or not they feel like they can then provide what is needed is another story. I notice that in our school (we are a small program serving deaf children in a reg public school) we sometimes we have to fight for our position on the list of priorities that the principal has to confront every day. THat's why I am conducting research about how much adm support there is for teachers who serve special needs students in the mainstream. Maybe we can share what we learn as we go along. Sorry, I forgot to address this toyour email address. Hope you see it anyway. SUBJECT: no speech/hearing imp? Date: 96-11-09 16:28:51 EST From: KMSmalley I have a three year old son. He has very little language and at first we thought he was deaf. He would not turn around when called, bells rung, etc. Now he does, but he has not much language and he sounds just like a deaf person. Even his neurologist said the same thing, that he sounds like a deaf person. He has a made up kind of language. Now he says some things, extent of it no, juice, stop, wait, dada, he has never said mama, those are his only words and they are spoken like a deaf person. I have a friend in college that is deaf and even her parents said that he sounded like her when she was a child. Now the question is, I have had him tested three or four times, they have determined he can hear out of at least one ear. How good? Since he has no language we can not independently test each ear. What to do? If there is any advice please email me ksmalley@aol.com as I don't think I will make it back here really soon Thanks so much. SUBJECT: Re:no speech/hearing imp? Date: 96-11-09 22:16:51 EST From: SusanS29 KMS your school district has an early intervention program. Get your son evaluated by them. He might have a motor problem (called oral apraxia) that prevents him from forming words easily. He could have a language disability. Often these language-related problems respond very well to early, intensive intervention. SUBJECT: Vocational ASL Date: 96-11-10 21:11:40 EST From: JWHAUN Hi, I'm looking for a book or other information on Automotive related sign language. I currently have a deaf student in my college level automotive technology program. His interpreter doesn't know very many automotive sign language. She thinks that there might be specific signs for automotive systems and parts. Also if there is any information on teaching a deaf student automotive technology, I can certainly use that also. Is there anyone that can help me? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Jim jwhaun@aol.com SUBJECT: Re: Vocational ASL Date: 96-11-12 17:26:36 EST From: Nbowneg Jim,you might try contacting The National Techinacal Institute for the Deaf in Rochester,NY (NTID). Over the years the have developed many technical signs. I don't have their phone number at my fingertips but they have a toll free number.To get it just call 1-800-555-1212. Nancy SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Date: 96-11-12 17:32:54 EST From: Nbowneg I tried to sed you amessage but it was returned. I currently work in a school with mainstreamed Deaf students. They all attend classes with interpreters. No regular classroom teacher can learn enough sin quiclky enough to be of benifit to the student. Their job is to teach all of the students. The interpreter will make the language accessible for the Deaf child. The teachers do require inservice on using an interpreter properly and Deaf culture. There are commercial programs out there to help. One I used recently was called Bridges Beyond Silence. It contained both a video tape and workbook for follow up activities. It can be used with students or staff. I'll look for the publisher and post it soon. Nancy SUBJECT: Schools? Date: 96-11-12 23:02:26 EST From: Angie12196 Does anyone know of any colleges in the South that offer degrees in Deaf Education? This is what I would like my major to be, but I need somewhere to start.... Any help would be appreciated!! Thanks, Angie12196 SUBJECT: Re:Schools? Date: 96-11-13 10:17:56 EST From: JoanE155 I don't know exactly where in the South you want to be, but in the SouthWest, in Tucson is the U of Arizona. They had a good deaf ed dept when I went there, and although that was admittedly a few years ago, I think they have maintained a good reputation. SUBJECT: Deaf Education Date: 96-11-13 18:25:55 EST From: Angie12196 Could any one give me some information on some schools that offer a degree in Deaf Education? I'm looking into this for my major. Thanks, Angie12196 SUBJECT: Re:Schools? Date: 96-11-14 00:09:52 EST From: SusanS29 "Does anyone know of any colleges in the South that offer degrees in Deaf Education?" University of Tampa used to have a good special ed program... SUBJECT: SKI*HI Date: 96-11-16 22:48:14 EST From: KySigner I no longer work with this program. My office doesn't get many referrals for children that age any more, but it was a great program. My job was to educate the parents, and teach them (in their homes) ways to stimulate lang. development, care of hearing aids, etc. Even though I am very pro signing, it was not my job to make that decision for parents, and I kept my feelings very neutral. They were given info about the various methods of communication, and names of local organizations where they could go to get more infor. If you want more info about SKI*HI you should check with Tom Clark, the creator. He's in Utah (Univ. of??) Ky. School for the Deaf also uses this program. I believe they call their preschool program BEGINNINGS. You can contact the school, in Danville, Ky. for more information. If you can't find any info from these two places, let me know, and I will get you the main SKI*HI number (sorry I don't have it here) Email me if you need the info. I don't always check this board. SUBJECT: Re: Vocational ASL Date: 96-11-16 22:50:23 EST From: KySigner NTID has nothing on auto mechanics--my school has tried. I would suggest contacting members of the deaf community in your town and asking. My office is doing a project where we contact local deaf people and ask them for signs for specific areas, and then video tape them. You might try doing the same thing. Your local community is your best resource! SUBJECT: HI-not the primary handicap! Date: 96-11-19 22:13:54 EST From: Signer13 I have a student in my class that has a mod-severe loss, is oral (but most of the time unintelligible);, ADHD, Obsessive-compulsive, and oppositional-defiant. Needless to say, I am very frustrated!!!!! His mother is working with a psychiatrist to adjust his meds., but this is a process of trial and error. He has thrown furniture in my classroom on several occasions, and nothing seems to reward him (I've tried everything!!) However, I am open to any and ALL suggestions for dealing with this child in a middle school, SPED classroom with hearing-impaired AND hearing students. Please e-mail me @ signer13 SUBJECT: Re:HI-not the primary handic Date: 96-11-20 19:36:52 EST From: Nbowneg Signer13, You sound as if you have your hands full! Do you have a behavior specialist working with your program to set up a behavior plan? On another note, how does it work having Deaf and hearing students in the same program? My experience has been that the Deaf kids miss out on incedential learning because signs are often dropped when working with the hearing kids. Nancy SUBJECT: Re:no speech/hearing imp? Date: 96-11-21 23:35:00 EST From: Peppytony KMSmalley, Your three year old can have an evoked response hearing test if he hasn't already. The child is asleep and his brain's responses to auditory stimuli are recorded without having him do anything for the test. This would at least allow you to know if it is a hearing loss or some other issue you are dealing with. My two hearing impaired children were tested as infants ( 3 weeks old and 6 weeks old) and it gave us a lot of information as to their hearing loss without them having to "participate" in the process. Good Luck! SUBJECT: F-M Trainers Date: 96-11-22 00:28:23 EST From: JDGUS I am looking for some research information on the effectiveness of supplying F-M trainers to hearing impaired kids. does anyone have any research findings they can throw my way? SUBJECT: Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 96-11-24 05:38:17 EST From: BongoMama This is a popular subject here I"m sure. :) I'm a Masters student in Deaf Ed and will graduate next year in Dec. I am wanting to move out of CO, to a place where there is a big deaf community, exciting city, beautiful, safe, and nice rent.. is this a pipe dream? If you know of such a place and know of job openings either please post here or in my AOL mail. Thanks! ...Also any lesson plans or curriculums for deaf ed, I would love it. Is this the right place for that or is there a message board elsewhere that focuses on this? SUBJECT: Integrated school in BC? Date: 96-11-24 05:40:34 EST From: BongoMama Anyone have any information of a new school in BC, Canada that was designed specifically for both deaf and hearing students? Please post or mail me if you do, ever since I heard about it (a month ago) I've wanted to work there.. SUBJECT: Deaf parent of ADD Date: 96-11-27 16:26:49 EST From: Socadream I need suggestions for the mother of an 8 yr old boy with severe adhd and behavior problems both in adn out of school. I am trying to help her but since she is deaf and I don't have sign language skills, it is difficult. She's a single mom and low income. I'm trying to help her learn more about her sons difficulties and am also trying to hook her up with some parenting skills help. Any suggestions out there? We are in So. Ca., Long Beach area. Thanks E-mail to Socadream SUBJECT: picking up a HI student Date: 96-11-28 00:29:18 EST From: PMorgan802 Hello! I am a second year special education teacher in a elementary multi-categorical class. My team has just met on a first grader that we have dtermined has a hearing impairment. Seh was in special education for speech. she has a degenerative hearing condition. Right now she can hear converstation, but requires an auditory trainer in the classrom. She is having a lot of difficulty in reading and writing, so after we meet for her IEP, she will begin receiving language arts services in my room. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to help her in reading and written expression. I'm concerend about how to teach reading to someone who has difficulty hearing sounds. By the way, right now her auditory trainer is broken, so we won't have it until it's repaired. Thanks in advance! SUBJECT: Re:picking up a HI student Date: 96-11-28 10:25:01 EST From: SusanS29 I would not use a fully phonics approach, of course, but I would be aggressive about teaching basic sight vocabulary. That will do a couple of things. First, it will ease the frustration of having to sound words out. With a hearing problem she may not automatically put words she's "sounded out" into long term memory -- which is why phonics works well with most kids -- they really do "memorize the words" after sounding them out a couple of times. But besides easing the frustration, it will give her a frame of reference for the phonics. The word I just used, "give," is a good one to memorize because it doesn't follow the vowel rules. BUT once it's learned it has hard /g/ at the beginning and /v/ at the end, both of which can be hard to learn. So once she's memorized that word well, she has a good frame of reference for two consonants as well as a developing concept of the importance of position when sounding out words. SUBJECT: Re:picking up a HI student Date: 96-11-29 19:37:07 EST From: AmyPooh669 have u thought of the possibility of implementing cued speech with this child? if she already has a base language, it could be a way for her to "switch" it from an auditory input to a visual one, without having to drastically upset her language acquisition. it could even help with her reading and writing skills by giving her a visual way to discriminate the various consonant and vowel sounds. if u need more information, feel free to e-mail me at the above! good luck! SUBJECT: FM/Auditory trainers Date: 96-12-04 19:54:38 EST From: LRussomano Does anyone know, if in NJ parents or the school is responsible for payment of FM trainers for a mildly hearing impaired pupil SUBJECT: Books for Deaf Date: 96-12-05 16:00:23 EST From: BongoMama Is there a list, that anyone out there has compiled (doesn't have to be formal or fancy) of books that are good for hearing impaired? What I'm looking for is books for all ages that are easy to read. Examples are _Where The Wild Things Are_... also books that are easily translated into ASL> Please send any *ANY* book lists you have to my mail here. SUBJECT: Re:picking up a HI student Date: 96-12-05 16:06:07 EST From: BongoMama Reading: It is good to introduce different kinds of text, such as newspaper, comics, magazines, menus, and so forth. Comics are of course easier to work with -gives a visual representation of sequence, and there are cues to the meaning from the pictures. There are also wordless books that are good to learn sequencing, a pre-reading skill. Try to work on comprehension first, such as signing a written text to her first (preferrably ASL) for understanding (in other words, doesn't need to follow the text word for word, but give the story), then read the story again, gradually working towards word for word. If a student understands that the story is about first, then they will much better understand the words later on. SUBJECT: Mainstreamin Yes/No Date: 96-12-06 09:41:39 EST From: TUUULA I am doing research on how hearing impaired students do in regular classrooms. Is this the best placement for them? I am very interested in any info anyone has to share. My E-Mail address is Tuuula. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreamin Yes/No Date: 96-12-06 14:35:53 EST From: Ratatat <> If their disability is not cognitive, why shouldn't they be in the regular classroom. Deaf doesn't mean stupid. SUBJECT: Deafblind Research Publicat Date: 96-12-08 12:13:20 EST From: Freebella I have been out of the loop for a few years and am looking for publishers who will review articles for publication. I have done classroom based research on combining modern technology and positive intervention techniques to reduce self-stimulation behaviors of deafblind students. My Email address is Freebella. We are excited obout this information and would like to share it with our peers. Thanks.. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreamin Yes/No Date: 96-12-09 04:04:22 EST From: BongoMama If their disability is not cognitive, why shouldn't they be in the regular classroom. Deaf doesn't mean stupid. You are right, Deaf doesn't mean stupid. It does mean: oral information presented is understood 25-30% of the time, oftentimes other students in class do not know sign language, = very very little socialization. It does mean: Most deaf children have language delays = reading delays = text presented is not modified for child = lag behind in education. It does mean: very few deaf children/adults develop good speech = another factor for minimal socialization. It does mean: interpreters = young children with language delay may not understand the interpreter and therefore attention is lost = waste of time in classroom. It does mean that in a mainstream class: deaf role models are often not presented to the child, and often interpreters use SEE signs =less comprehension as well. In other words it does depend on the student's speech/speech reading skills, language skills, proper training and preparation and support of regular ed teacher, hearing children learn sign, the deaf child is not only deaf/hard of hearing child in the classroom. If all this is met, that would be a rather good "appropriate" placement. Otherwise, I advocate for either: inclusion with resource room or all deaf school. Note: inclusion means that the child is *included* fully. SUBJECT: Re:Deafblind Research Publicat Date: 96-12-09 04:05:51 EST From: BongoMama Depending on the research: Informal, applicable to teachers, strategies for classroom: _Perspectives_ pub. by Gallaudet.. Otherwise there's the American Annals of the Deaf and The Volta Review - most prominent journals. SUBJECT: Re:Deafblind Research Public Date: 96-12-09 22:05:47 EST From: SignMePooh Bongomama - SEE doesn't necessarily mean less comprehension.........any more than any other communication method/tool used...but i agree with u on all other accounts: deaf in hearing classrooms miss out on so much social interaction and incidental learning. it is really a shame. i happen to have gone to a public highschool with 2 deaf friends who were mainstreamed - i can safely say that 9 times out of 10, i was the only person (besides the terp) that they talked to. if that isn't restrictive, i don't know what is. i can't imagine being in a room with 30 people and only being able to easily communicate with 2 of them! :( SUBJECT: Re:FM/Auditory trainers Date: 96-12-09 22:13:54 EST From: PMorgan802 I really can't answer for NJ, but in Missouri, if a student has an IEP that lists a necessary modification as an auditory trainer, it is the school district's responsibility to pay for the trainer. We recently diagnosed a girl as HI. The mother said they may be moving to Illinois, so we were sure to list an auditory trainer as something she needed for academic instruction. That way, if she moves, the school district is required to provide a trainer for her. I hope this helps! SUBJECT: Re:Children with hearing imp Date: 96-12-17 21:08:38 EST From: FitzJen10 Try Volta Review American Annals of the Deaf or Call: Illinios State University-They have a wonderful Deaf and Hard of Hearing program and the people who can give you some information are: Joanne Stephans, Dr. Maribeth Lartz or Mrs. Litchfield @ (309)438-5419 (spec. ed. dept) They can answer any questions you have and probably would be flattered that you heard about them on the "NET". SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 96-12-17 21:15:57 EST From: FitzJen10 Does he understand your speech? How do you communicate with him? Does he wear hearing aids? Answering these questions may help. Is he enrolled in school? If so, is he mainstreamed or in an inclusive setting? If he is mainstreamed/included it could quite possibly be a self-esteem issue. Many children who are deaf and hard of hearing feel ashamed and don't want to be "different" from the other kids. Having an interpreter to interact with other peers can also isolate a child. I have many questions about this situation..b 4 i would be able to give any sort of advice. FYI (I am a teacher of the deaf and hard of hearing) SUBJECT: Re:SPEECH ACQUIS.-HEARING IM Date: 96-12-17 21:20:08 EST From: FitzJen10 try your topic in these journals -Volta Review -American Annals of the Deaf SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 96-12-18 19:53:31 EST From: Lisastier At a residential school!!!!!!!!!!!!! Students are able to socialize/communicate/feel equal/participate. SUBJECT: Re:Schools? Date: 96-12-21 04:22:38 EST From: DLarra4168 Angie, a good reference list for teacher preparation programs is the annual reference issue of the American Annals of the Deaf, published by Gallaudet University. I believe the reference issue generally comes out in April. It lists all of the teacher preparation programs by state and indicates what degrees are offered, etc. I recently graduated from the M.A. program at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa and was very satisfied overall with the instruction received. SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 96-12-22 22:18:53 EST From: JoanOgden I read a letter from AlbrittonJ about deaf kids and reading. I do research on that topic at the National Technical Institute for the Deaf and I'm working on my PH.D. in that area. Contact me at CJMNCR at the Rochester Institute of Technology if you want to talk in-depth. SUBJECT: Re:Schools? Date: 96-12-27 13:56:16 EST From: Fiickling Their are 2 schools in Alabama that offer degrees in Education of the Hearing Impaired-University of Montevallo in Montevallo, Alabama offers a Total Communication approach. The University of Alabama offers an oral approach. SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Ed Jobs Date: 96-12-31 20:27:30 EST From: BSiegel528 Clark County Public Schools in Las Vegas Nevada has openings every year. Salary is good. Some unusual teaching models about 200 kids in oral and tc classes. contact Ron Malcolm . SUBJECT: College Hunt Date: 97-01-03 09:33:59 EST From: R G Sansom I am a hearing high school student in Florida. I have been learning ASL and working with the deaf community for some time. I love it. I am truly interested in Deaf Education and would like to make it my career, but I am having a hard time finding colleges and scholarships. Please inform me if you have any information. Thank you so very much. Rockford Sansom SUBJECT: Re:College Hunt Date: 97-01-04 19:04:21 EST From: LynnWool11 Hi, I am a supervising teacher at a school for the deaf. I would suggest that you consider getting a teaching degree in elementary education or secondary educaiton first. Then get a master's degree in Deaf Education. The education background will help you greatly. You will understand what teaching is all about. Then, you can specialize in the area of Deaf Education. You will modify the techniques you know form your bachelors and specifically direct them towards the education of deaf students. It is very challenging to get a degree in one field and then take masters level courses in deaf ed. People lack a basic educational foundation. There are programs that offer stipends for graduate students. One of them is Western Oregon State College in Oregon. Another one is Lewis and Clark College in Oregon. Good Luck! SUBJECT: Ph.D programs in Deaf Ed Date: 97-01-04 19:34:37 EST From: LynnWool11 I am considering pursuing a further degree in Deaf Ed. Just getting started. Any good ideas out there??? Who offers stipends??? SUBJECT: Re:LRE Date: 97-01-06 00:19:40 EST From: Truman8 Would be more than willing to offer guidance...but you need to provide a bit more information about the student. SUBJECT: Vocabulary resources Date: 97-01-12 14:23:52 EST From: Lynslade Hi, I am getting my masters in special ed. I am also working in an FMD program with a deaf girl and I need to find more resources on vocabulary. Does anyone have any dictionaries or boods that they have used and approve of ? I would appreciate any help, Thanks Amy SUBJECT: Re:Ph.D programs in Deaf Ed Date: 97-01-15 22:07:29 EST From: Beastygrl Any good Doc program should pay you a fellowship. I'm a Ph.D. student at the Department of Education at Gallaudet University. The program is young, but there are many good opportunities there. You must have at least 3 years teaching experience, and it would be really good if there was a faculty member there that you could study with, depending on your area of interest. Contact me at Doctawanda@aol.com if you'd like more information. SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 97-01-16 20:03:25 EST From: CASSO1 The University of Pittsburgh and Gallaudet University in Washington,D.C. both have accredited Master's Degree Programs in Deaf Education SUBJECT: To Lynnwool11 Date: 97-01-16 22:03:43 EST From: WWhitefam Help! I have a mental retared deaf student. He is eight years old. We would like to teach him to sign. At this time he unstands about four signs, but he does not sign back. He is non-verbal. If you could offer any suggestions, I would galdly try them out. Please e-mail me. WWhitefam@aol.com. SUBJECT: Re:To Lynnwool11 Date: 97-01-18 11:14:24 EST From: Nbowneg Lynn, First is yours a special ed. or Deaf class? If it is special ed, why isn't the student with other Deaf students so he can have exposue to more sign? Of couse as teachers we often don't have control over the students who are put in our classes I don't mean to be getting down on you.:). Do you knoe sign yourself? I have found that with students weather the are mentally retarded or not, they need to be in a Sign rich environment with as many people signing as possible including the folks at home. Rember that first the student must have good receptive knowledge of a sign before he can use it expressivly. I have been told the figure of 100 times of exposure before it is fully understood. In your student's case it may be more!. Provide video tapes in sign, for school and home. Your local library may help you or the local BOCES. If you have more questions fell free to email me Nancy nbowneg@aol SUBJECT: Re:To Lynnwool11 Date: 97-01-18 20:16:12 EST From: LynnWool11 This reply is in error. Is it Signer13? SUBJECT: Anybody out there? Date: 97-01-29 23:29:11 EST From: Stretchyo I am interested in discussing current trends in Deaf education. I am a teacher for the Deaf at a Deaf school and would love to hear other people's thoughts and ideas. I noticed that no one has been using this space. Anyone out there? SUBJECT: Re:College Hunt Date: 97-01-31 19:45:21 EST From: Opal777 Have you checked out Flagler College here in FL? I had an intern who came from there with strong teaching skills. You may want to look into it. To get the best deaf ed program....I'd still go north where the programs have been around for a long time and are thus, stronger. Of course that is merely my opinion. Others may feel differently. But, the teachers who come here form the north seem to have stronger skills for teaching speech and language when compared to some of the interns that I have met from here...considering that everything is relative. SUBJECT: Re:His parents DON'T Sign Date: 97-01-31 19:53:10 EST From: Opal777 When you figure this one out...please share your revelation with me! I've been dealing with this issue for years. I even offered to teach a class...and they didn't show up...and didn't have the decency to let me know. these are the type of parents who leave it up to us to communicate to their children. I get notes all the time telling me that mom tried to explain to Johnny one thing or another and that Johnny can't understand...will I relay the message. I did...but I stopped! I told the parent that if it is school related..I'd help. If not, I would be than happy to teach them a few signs to get the message across until they can finish a sign class! SUBJECT: job hunting in Chicago Date: 97-02-05 21:14:03 EST From: NCleary Any one know of any job openings for teachers of the deaf in the Chicago area ? I taught at Az School for the Deaf ... moved to Chicago and am getting ready to start job hunting here. Just wondered if anyone had any leads. My undergrad is in deaf ed and masters in audiology. What about Salt Lake City ? I really would prefer to work at a deaf school as opposed to a mainstream program. Any helpful information would be appreciated. Thanks, ncleary @aol.com SUBJECT: Re:Jobs...Phoenix Date: 97-02-05 21:22:03 EST From: NCleary The largest program for the deaf in Phoenix is Phoenix Day School for the Deaf. The school is the Phoenix campus of ASDB - Az School for the Deaf located in Tucson. I used to work at PDSD and I really liked it. It is a day school for the deaf - preschool through high school. I think the enrollment at least 250 kids. If I was moving to Phoenix that is defintely the first place I would contact. Tons of nice supportive staff. Good luck! Also, if a mainstream program is more your thing - Mesa School District (suburb of Phoenix) has a large deaf ed program. SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 97-02-09 02:09:28 EST From: AHKM2000 2/97 Don't give up and don't force your child to learn a system if he/she is communicating. I believe in Total Communication and believe children should be exposed to all modes of communication. Has your child been exposed to other deaf/hoh children and adults? Your child needs to have role models and access to those means. Also is your child's primary disability deafness? SUBJECT: Re:teachers of deaf Date: 97-02-09 02:12:46 EST From: AHKM2000 2/97 Sounds like a great idea! Would love to exchange ideas. This is a great opportunity to use different ideas. Keep me informed! Elementary Deaf/HOH class. SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 97-02-09 02:16:02 EST From: AHKM2000 2/97 Remember Cochlear Implants are not cures! A child is still considered deaf, even with a cochlear implant. He/She will always be deaf! IT IS OKAY! Also communication is the factor-be it ASL, PSE, or SEE. Don't deny a deaf child ! Be open and willing to be flexible with all modes of communication. SUBJECT: Closed captioning Date: 97-02-13 23:24:54 EST From: RobinReg This seems as good a place as any to post this info: Educators of the deaf may want to check out my website, Closed Captioning Web, as a resource. There are links to captioning hardware and software which will enable you (if you can hear :) ) to caption videos yourself. Of course there is plenty of other stuff too, but that is the part that would be of most use to educators of the deaf. The site is at http://www.erols.com/berke/. SUBJECT: Re:College Grants? Date: 97-02-18 17:25:39 EST From: FramanAZ Vocational Rehabiltation by law is to provde financial aid to the disabled child who wishws to pursue a college degree. Suggest you contact Illinois School for the Deaf for the name of the vocational rehabilitation counselor who works with the ISD students. SUBJECT: Re:Jobs Date: 97-02-18 17:27:36 EST From: FramanAZ Contact Arizona Schools for the Deaf in Tucson for job announcements. Possible locations: Tucson, Phoenix, Flagstaff, Yuma SUBJECT: Re:master? where? Date: 97-02-18 17:31:04 EST From: FramanAZ Gallaudet University, Wash. D.C.; U of Arizona, Western Maryland College, Calif State Univ., Nothridge; San Diego State Univ., Lewis and Clark College in Portland, Or.; Columbia U. SUBJECT: Re:mssd Date: 97-02-18 17:32:36 EST From: FramanAZ where do you live? a nearby school could be as good. SUBJECT: Mainstreaming w/ Mild Loss Date: 97-02-21 14:51:31 EST From: AMTerry Hello. I don't know if I'm even in the right place, but I'm looking to contact other parents of children with mild-to-moderate hearing loss who are mainstreaming through elementary school. My son Graham is almost 5, and was diagnosed at 3 yrs-3mos. with a mild-to-moderate, upper-frequency sensorineural hearing loss. He wears bi-lateral hearing aids, and has been enrolled in a regular preschool for 3 years (the first full year was prior to the diagnosis). We have gotten private speech therapy for him 2-3 times per week since he was fitted with the hearing aids. He will be entering our public school for Kindergarten this fall, and will be classified "Aud. Handicapped", and begin using an FM system. Graham is very bright (fortunately), and has done very well with the speech therapy. (He has some friends with no hearing problems whose speech is not as good as his!) With the aids he comes up to 20-30 Db..(He can also function quite well without the hearing aids). Graham has done exceptionally well so far in the preschool with only the hearing aids (no FM), and has tested at or above peer level in most areas for academics and basic skills. Someone in the deaf community classified this as "dangerously normal," since it is sometimes easy to forget he is hearing impaired. I would like to chat with any other parents of children with similar hearing impairments who have been mainstreamed in elementary school to share some thoughts, ideas, information, emotions, advice or just chat. Feel free to e-mail me. Andrea SUBJECT: TDD - TDD Closed systems Date: 97-02-25 19:04:49 EST From: SITKOA Hi, I'm searching for information and resources for creating a TDD learning center for my classroom. TDD skills are an important part of the deaf child's education. I'm searching for grants and companies that would be willing to sponsor such a learning center. If you have any ideas or resources, please e-mail me. Thanks, SITKOA SUBJECT: Re:Reading for deaf students Date: 97-03-02 18:24:20 EST From: LAllen1530 I teach a class of high school deaf student in Reading. Their reading levels vary from the third grade to fifth grade level. I have found reading novels to be helpful for them. Of course, they are on their reading level. I have also found that watching a movie with a close captioner to be helpful. I break the movie into four to five twenty minute parts with an outline for each part. The students have to fill in the blanks on the outline, and then answer questions. It is also good for using context clues to define a word they might not know. We then write papers about the movie. SUBJECT: SEE2 Date: 97-03-02 18:31:00 EST From: LAllen1530 I teach in a regional day school for the deaf that uses SEE2 in the classroom. I have really found this sign language system to be very beneficial to the student. My high school students have been using this system for six years and are "naturally" learning English. Of course, we still have to practice writing and learning the rules of the English language. I was wondering if anyone else is using SEE2 and if so, how it was working out. SUBJECT: Re:multi-handicapped/HOH Date: 97-03-07 16:01:55 EST From: SDiehl2838 I am sorry that i don't have any suggestions, but you could contact some state schools for the deaf. They should have some populations like that. I was told that the Texas school for the Deaf does. I would also like to ask of you, if you could send me some information on multi-handicapped/HOH. My email address is SDiehl2838. SUBJECT: Gifted and Hearing Impaired Date: 97-03-08 01:55:00 EST From: KimYvette I have a friend whose daughter is not only gifted, but also hearing impaired. The Mom is continuely fighting with the school to provide services for her daughter. If any one has had experience with a gifted, hearing impaired child please E-Mail me, let me know how you overcame your problem with school. Thank-you, Kim SUBJECT: Re:I NEED INFO ON USHERS SYN Date: 97-03-22 10:32:43 EST From: LAllen1530 I also need information on Ushers syndrome. Please send e mail to LAllen@aol.com, my mother's computer so please put attention mary SUBJECT: SEE2 Date: 97-03-22 10:38:09 EST From: LAllen1530 Anyone using SEE2 in the classroom. We have been using it for 6 years and like it a lot. Seeing a lot of improvement in kids English grammar, especially in writing. Also looking for someone to chat with about teaching the deaf. SUBJECT: Deaf Child w/ Coch. Implant Date: 97-04-09 09:36:15 EST From: SoniaHart I was wondering if there is anyone who has a deaf child who is mainstreamed and has a cochlear implant. I would like to exchange ideas on accomodations. Sonia H. SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 97-04-10 20:59:26 EST From: Live197720 Go to Keyword:deaf and there's a section about cued speach. Also, many colleges offer lip reading classes. This is a good oportunity, because I met someone who's fourteen, deaf and goes to a normal school. Her friends and language teacher sign, but she reads the other teachers' lips. SUBJECT: Re:Help with ASL - - Date: 97-04-10 21:01:17 EST From: Live197720 Try ASL Concise Dictionary. It's not abreviated in the title. The neat thing is it has some commonly used signs such as MacDonnalds. SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 97-04-10 21:02:45 EST From: Live197720 Try starting with "I want to eat at MacDonnalds." don't take him to McDonnalds until he signs it to you. Then, if he wants a burger, he'll pay attention. SUBJECT: Re:Learnign Sign Language Date: 97-04-10 21:10:45 EST From: Live197720 There is a site at http://www.hoh.org/~masterstech/ASLdict.spml that has a dictionarry. SUBJECT: Deaf friend Date: 97-04-13 19:04:03 EST From: LTroudy I have recently met a lady who has just moved into the So. California arwa. She will be in the San Bernadino County Schools. Her son has been deaf since birth and will be changing schools in the fall. As a special education teacher I imeediately began to ask what parent support groups she was involved with and who in the area has been helping her to meet the needs of her child. Her face went blank as he did not know that these were available. I have no background and would live to be able to direct her to support groups and educators that could assist her in meeting the needs of her 11 year old son. They sign and she is confused as he does not know whether he should be integrated or should remain on a segregated campus in the fall. Could anyone help me get her started ? You can E mail me at L Troudy SUBJECT: Re:Speech Therapist position Date: 97-04-19 13:25:31 EST From: Beanie7783 Southern California County program offers Speech and Language Specialist's opportunity to work in all areas of Special ed...including a variety of DHH classrooms. Good benefits, salary..much support from co workers. Nice office with computers,and latest technology. Aides will help with paper work, generous materials budget.. let us know if you are interested! Beanie7783 SUBJECT: Re:Deaf Child w/ Coch. Implant Date: 97-04-19 23:52:57 EST From: LLBizhan Just remember, even you said it, your child is Deaf, now and forever more....no cochlear implant can change that. Accept and be proud of your child's deafness. There is a huge Deaf culture "out there" that your child can become access and use as a support system for his/her whole life. Don't shelter your child in a classroom (mainstream) where your child will be restricted in every way. I teach at the California School for the Deaf. And the children there are anything BUT handicapped.....they can act in plays, run for school council, play on any sports team, etc..... they are normal kids at my school and they do learn how to interact with the "hearing world", how could they not, anyway, "hearingness" is all around them. Let your child be free to be him or her. Investigate the school for the deaf in your area or look for a BiBi program (Bilingual program). Good luck. SUBJECT: Looking for a Teaching Job Date: 97-04-23 15:43:57 EST From: DBrown1049 My name is Dawn Brown and I am currently looking for a job teaching the Deaf/HH. I am willing to relocate if needed. I currently live in Oklahoma City, OK. If you know of any teaching jobs available please let me know. I have a BS in Deaf Education, BS in Speech Pathology and am State Certified as an Interpreter. Please E-mail me at DBrown1049 Thank you, I appreciate any information leading to a job. SUBJECT: Closed captioned videos Date: 97-04-23 20:04:29 EST From: Cows1Rules I would like access to closed captioned videos that I could show my deaf students. I am looking for videos on famous Deaf adults, culture, sign language etc. Is there a place to rent or borrow videos? Help. SUBJECT: Re:Closed captioned videos Date: 97-04-25 23:55:42 EST From: DBrown1049 I am not sure where you live, but I know that in Oklahoma we can get some CC films from the School for the Deaf. You might want to try contacting someone at the School for the Deaf in you area. If that school dosent have some kind of loaning program they might be able to tell you where you can get a catalogue of films that can be loaned out to public schools. I hope this information helps you. SUBJECT: preschool services Date: 97-04-28 18:09:29 EST From: Nbowneg A parent I know just called with questions concerning their preschool son in NY State. The child is 4 years old and profoundly deaf. He was recently tested using the Brigance. He scored within normal limits for his age. He has significant articulation errors. The district will not continue to pay for a site based preschool program because he does not have current learning delays. but will pay for individual speech therapy. This boy's disability will not dissapear. I suggested that the parents contact their local SETRC and the center for Law and Deafness. Does anyone have any other ideas? Without stimulation from his peers and the language development that takes place in group situations this child may regress. This district is just trying to save a buck. Thanks in advance for your help and ideas. Nancy SUBJECT: teaching deaf in Ca(L.A.) Date: 97-04-28 18:25:16 EST From: Tra21 I am currently looking into moving to California( L.A.). This move will not occur for 2 years but I wanted to get some information from someone who may teach deaf students in CA. or has a school in which deaf students are serviced. I currently teach in Chicago and have taught deaf high school students for 3 years. Any information about various schools that have deaf education programs including addresses, phone numbers and any background information would be appreciated. SUBJECT: Re: Closed Caption Videos Date: 97-04-28 19:54:15 EST From: Mikk E Dee You can borrow videos free of charge from Captioned Films/Videos Modern Talking Picture Service, Inc. 5000 Park St. N. St. Petersburg, FL 33709 1-800-237-6213 Voice/TTY Call for a catalogue. SUBJECT: ASL/Teens Date: 97-04-29 17:17:13 EST From: DELL1977 I am a special ed teacher. I have used ASL "I Love You" pins to motivate my teenage deaf students when they accomplish a goal that they thought was impossible to achieve. This seems to be more age appropriate and they love to give them to friends and family. I have found a source for these at HisCrafts (http:members.aol.com/HisCrafts/index.html) and have been very pleased with the look of their pins. Our class has also used these to raise money for our classroom and special projects. If you have other ideas about motivating my kids in an age appropriate way, or raising money for our classroom, please let me know. DELL1977 SUBJECT: Re:Schools? Date: 97-04-29 19:14:45 EST From: LvSignLang The University of North Carolina at Greensboro has a B.S. in Deaf Education, and if you want to interpret, Educational Interpreting. That is where I went. It is one of the few who offer a B. S. degree. SUBJECT: SEE2 Date: 97-04-30 18:47:19 EST From: MShad96723 I teach in a small rural regional day school that currently uses SEE2. I was interested if any else was using this sign system and what they thought of it. How are the student's progressing and so on. Also am looking for people to just talk about teaching the deaf. I live in Texas and have been teaching for 6 years. I have two pen pals right now who also teach the deaf. email me at MShad96723 Thanks SUBJECT: Looking for support... Date: 97-05-02 22:04:25 EST From: USign2 I just recently got online, and I'm thrilled to fine this board!! I've been teaching DHH for three years- both itinerant and self-contained (in public school, of course.) Sometimes I feel like I'm out there all alone! I'd love penpal with other teachers of the Deaf... Please e-mail me at USign2...hope to hear from you soon! Thanks. SUBJECT: inclusion vs. self-contained Date: 97-05-02 23:45:21 EST From: KatLindsay planning for second grade hearing impaired student for Fall '97. Have shared him with a.m. hearing impaired program in one building and included p.m. first grade classroom all year. He has moved from one building to another at lunch time. Does not use sign language. Profoundly deaf. FM unit and aids. Trying to decide on fall program. The "sharing" will no longer be possible. What have others done? What is your experience. We do not have a hearing impaired teached at his home school. Just resource room support or TC...mostly learning disabilities backgrounds. Seems to be bright child. Very warm and demonstrates lots of stamina throughout his trying day. Many strengths. Good frustration tolerance when one considers all he's up against. However, we're having trouble accomplishing acquisition of academics in the included classroom setting. Low expressive vocabulary is really hurting reasoning, application of skills verbally, and memory. Has anyone else noticed poor memory for these kids? He often forgets activities, concepts, or words we thought he had mastered or would at least recall. Would like any information or insights anyone may have. Thanks! SUBJECT: Re:SPEECH ACQUIS.-HEARING IMP. Date: 97-05-05 19:47:52 EST From: JKissel623 Dear Howard: Try a program called "Bees and Bears" to teach little hearing-impaired children the rules for putting English together. AG Bell are reviewing it. You might call Elizabeth Quigley to ask about it. Good luck with your chosen life work. JKissel623@aol.com. SUBJECT: Re:inclusion vs. self-containe Date: 97-05-06 22:45:50 EST From: ATails KatLindsay, The student you describe could have been my daughter a few years ago. I don't know if there is any one set of answers. My own experience leads me to make three suggestions. First, if at all possible, a brief period of one-on-one help each day (30 min) would be most benefical. We have had this option, and we have used this time to try and address ongoing or periodic areas of concern (academics, speech, behavior, whatever). Second, vocabulary is very important (as you note). My daughter (now in 4th grade) is still behind where she should be in terms of vocabulary, and this still affects other areas (math word problems, standardized tests, to name two). Pay special attention to this in the early grades and I believe the rewards later on will be great. Extra work at school, or specially tailored homework is definitely worth the time. Third, try to make sure this child understands that he can do anything and everything (academically) that his peers can. If he expects great things of himself, many other things will fall into place. One last thing - in my own experience, poor "memory" means almost invariably that not everything was heard or understood (after a long day of hard concentration, my daughter would just play along and fake understanding as a way to take a break). Good luck. Art SUBJECT: Re:ASL/Teens Date: 97-05-16 20:35:36 EST From: Cows1Rules I have tried to locate the site you listed but it is not found. Please double check and post again. Thanks. SUBJECT: CMV Date: 97-05-21 22:02:37 EST From: USign2 I recently got a deaf student (age6) who has CMV, and he has some aggressive behaviors...throwing, scraching, hitting...hard time controlling himself and accepting consequences for his behaviors &/or constructive critisism...anybody have any info, ideas,etc. about CMV? Post or e-mail me...thanks! SUBJECT: Re:Looking for support... Date: 97-05-23 13:15:53 EST From: Cows1Rules I too have been teaching itinerant and self-contained. I would love a penpal. Saw your message about CMV student. I taught a deaf student with CMV for 6 years. Would love to share info and ideas. Cows1Rules SUBJECT: Masters Programs? Date: 97-05-27 19:59:29 EST From: EnRgy4u2me I am very interested in pursuing a career in Deaf Education. Can anyone give me some ideas on where to start? I already have my B.S. in Special Education (General). What should I do next? Any help/guidance would be greatly appreciated! SUBJECT: Re:Sign Language Date: 97-06-01 02:35:10 EST From: AHKM2000 Is your child around other deaf children or deaf adults? Role models are very important at this age. Also exposure-get some signlanguage books, as well as videos, so that your child is exposed to sign language. SUBJECT: Re:Future Teacher seeks mentor Date: 97-06-01 02:38:32 EST From: AHKM2000 Congrats! Working with the Deaf is a wonderful experience. I urge you to volunteer or sub. in those areas so that you know what you are getting into. Writing IEPs are also a challenge, but the reward are fruitful! Write to me at SMason4@AOL. Com I am a teacher for the Deaf at the elementary level with experience at all levels. SUBJECT: Re:Computers/Deaf Ed Date: 97-06-01 02:43:25 EST From: AHKM2000 Broderbund materials is absolutely wonderful! My elementary students love it! Write to me at S. Mason4@aol. com SUBJECT: Re:reading series Date: 97-06-01 02:51:28 EST From: AHKM2000 Yes ! Reading Milestones has changed companies; however get back to me on your Email and I will send you the name of the company. SUBJECT: Re:Advice Needed Badly Date: 97-06-01 02:55:45 EST From: AHKM2000 Yes this is very common. Remember language starts from 0-5 years of age. If that child did not start then, chances are her language will not improve significantly; however it doesn't mean she can't learn with extensive sign language at school and at home. Conceptually your child can grow and understand. Language, specifically English will be extremely difficult; however keep on modeling correct language to the child. SUBJECT: Re:Masters Programs? Date: 97-06-01 23:19:46 EST From: Willsons Contact the Smith College/Clarke School for the Deaf program in Northampton, Mass. From your profile, it appears you are close enough to go visit. I highly recommend both a visit and the program. SUBJECT: Re:SPEECH ACQUIS.-HEARING IM Date: 97-06-03 17:57:56 EST From: MikexTerry This is for Howard K686... Would love it if you would share those references ... I am also interested in speech and language acquisition. Thanks SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 97-06-07 21:19:56 EST From: EseyArt1 I dont know if you are interested Lori, but I design shirts and othee things with sign language on them. I'm also an Educational interpreter for the deaf. Almostt 8 yrs now. I've really enjoyed it. But if you'd like to check out my web page at http://members.aol.com/eseyart1/index.html Let me know what you think Thanks. EseyArt1 SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 97-06-07 21:24:17 EST From: EseyArt1 Well first of all I'm an Educational Interpreter for the deaf. The language they use is case or asl. Actually what is best for the child. If mainstreamed. We just had 6 graduate this yr. and preparing for college. I also design shirts with sign language on them. If you are interested check out my web page at http://members.aol.com/eseyart1/index.html Thanks Eseyart1 SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 97-06-14 08:36:16 EST From: DBrown1049 Actually CASE is not ASL. There is a difference. Case is Conseptually accurate signed ENGLISH. Where ASL is American Sign Language and has a different grammatical structure than Case. I am a Certified Interprter and a Teacher of the Hearing Impaired. SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 97-06-14 13:34:37 EST From: PHDSEF To DBrown1049, I am an Educational Interpreter working in the state of Virginia. I find that many who are involved in the education of the Deaf do not understand the distinctions bewtween ASL, SE, PSE, etc..Thank you for continuing to spread the word, however tedious that may be. I am still relatively new to the educational field and also actively pursuing my national certification. I would appreciate any advice you might be willing to share. You can reach me at PHDSEF@aol.com. Thanks. SUBJECT: flexible hearing loss Date: 97-06-15 14:09:25 EST From: MSander656 I have a 8 year old daughter who has a flexilbe hearing loss and is also a slow learner I would like any information SUBJECT: flexilbe hearing loss Date: 97-06-15 14:12:16 EST From: MSander656 would like any information on flexilbe hearing loss and slow learners SUBJECT: Re:CMV Date: 97-06-22 19:24:22 EST From: KChar61388 I know about CMV only because our school has a few students with it and I'm pregnant. The only "danger" of CMV is to a fetus if the mother is Negative ( never been exposed before). I know most children are only capable of spreading until the age of 5 or 6 and that's mostly through waste, mucus etc. The best place for information is your local Center For Disease Control. That's were my doctor got all of her information. Hope that helps. SUBJECT: Info. on employ. in WA??? Date: 97-06-27 22:26:30 EST From: MKnight466 I'm just about to start my third year of teaching a Deaf/HH preschool class in Stockton, CA. My fiance will soon be employed in Seatle, WA. Does anyone have any info. regarding the Deaf/HH program in the Seatle area or areas near by? My BA and MA are in communicative disorders, Ed. Deaf. I also have all the required teaching credentials for the state of CA, which include a Special Ed. Specialists Credential. Any info. would be much appreciated. I love the students I have now, but the program leaves a lot to be desired with regards to my Deaf/HH students. My class is used as an overflow class for other Spec. Ed. preschool classes...... I'm sure I'm not alone in this. Thanks - Melissa Knight - please e-mail me at MKnight466. My computer took forever just to get to this location :-) SUBJECT: Math Their Way Date: 97-07-02 09:50:51 EST From: Cows1Rules I would like information on the Math Their Way series. Has anyone used it successfully with Deaf students? Please advise before I invest. Thanks. Cows1Rules SUBJECT: Re:Signing for emergency per Date: 97-07-09 11:04:24 EST From: Sanyag I am an emergency contact person for our community. If a deaf or HI person comes into a station, or indicates another emergency need, I am called to assist. Tell me where you are from, and I will see what I can find for you in your area. SUBJECT: Re:Future Teacher seeks ment Date: 97-07-09 11:10:07 EST From: Sanyag Let me know where you are. I am an Deaf/Hi teacher in the middle school setting e-mail: smyaggie@juno.com SUBJECT: High interest reading Date: 97-07-09 11:14:06 EST From: Sanyag I have tried numerous reading series, but to no avail. I teach 6-10 grade deaf students who hate to read, and can recognize a low level book by the drawings and plot. I am in desperate need of some books that are interesting to my age levels, but are only 2-4 grade reading level. HELP!!! e-mail:SANYAG or smyaggie@juno.com SUBJECT: Info on emlpoy in VA or NC? Date: 97-07-09 11:16:34 EST From: Sanyag Am intersted in moving further north, and working with a deaf ed program there. Am certified k-12 Deaf Ed teacher with concentration in Middle Grades. Will take public/hearing school, but am very interested in Deaf Schools. e-mail : SANYAG or smyaggie@juno.com SUBJECT: Re:ASL as a first language Date: 97-07-10 06:57:37 EST From: Singart5 I have just a moment...but I teach in a school that has about 10 deaf students in grades K-5. These children are doing great! I am an art teacher and teach grades 2-5. Ihave these children each week during their art class. When I have more time I will 'talk' more. e-mail Singart5@aol.com SUBJECT: Re:High interest reading Date: 97-07-15 23:26:42 EST From: DBrown1049 First of all you need to find out what is interesting to each of the students and go from there. They will be more willing to read something that is of interest to them. Have the students write about things they like to do or something they think they might like to find out more about, then you can look for books that they might read. The main thing is to be sure it is interesting to them, you may have to preteach some vocab but if interesting to the student the more likely he is to read. SUBJECT: Bi-Bi and Whole Lang. issues Date: 97-07-24 21:36:30 EST From: C Davary Hi I'm a deaf teacher who's fusterated ! I mean really fusterated ! I graduated from Gallaudet with two Ba's in English and Education (secondary /English) While at Gallaudet they taught me a lot about bi-bi and whole language.. the approaches that are effective for teaching deaf students (regardless age) I need to know where can I get some more ideas and persons TO TALK TO !? about bi bi and whole language issues !.... I know as of now where I"m at which is in Northridge, Ca., not a lot of people are aware of it Even the fact that I'm a graduate student at CSUN, still there's not enough to go by and stir up some effective ideas that goes along with bi-bi and whole language in classrooms. Please do respond back to me I'd very much like to know what's happening with the approach ... SUBJECT: Gallaudet Univ. Press Date: 97-08-02 07:22:54 EST From: Cows1Rules I am trying to locate a workbook on Practical English Structures to use with my deaf students. I was given a number for Gallaudet Univ. Press. This number is no longer in service. Does anyone have a current number for them or know where I can order this workbook? Thanks. SUBJECT: Re:Gallaudet Univ. Press Date: 97-08-02 23:45:49 EST From: C Davary yea.. at any rate.. just dial this nbr 202-651-2000 that's the "central switch board" they'll tell you whom to talk to and what's the ph nbr ... c--- SUBJECT: Bilingual Hearing-impaired Date: 97-08-03 16:07:07 EST From: Great ABC I am starting a research project about the issues involved in teaching bilingual hearing-impaired students. I am teaching in an oral center-based program in Fairfax VA. If anyone has some information to share or would like to participate in my study(answering a questionaire) please let me know at GreatABC. Thanks SUBJECT: Re:Gallaudet Univ. Press Date: 97-08-07 07:52:02 EST From: Cows1Rules To: C Davary I tried the number you suggested. No luck. The number is not working. Any other leads as to how to reach them. Thanks.... Cows1Rules SUBJECT: Auditory-Verbal Therapy Date: 97-08-12 23:27:11 EST From: LvSignLang I am new to the field and I have a kindergarten student who is changing from Signed English to Cued Speech and I plan to use the Auditory-Verbal Techniques of Warren Estabrooks, Ontario. I have his book, but I am trying to find another program from Australia. It is called "Auditory Skills Program." I want to know where to write to to order it and how much it cost. I know this program is really good but I need to find out how I can get my hands on my own copy. It comes with two books, a video tape and an audio tape. I would also like any information, websites, addresses etc. of places I can get even more information about this technique. This is still a fairly new area, but I have seen the miracles. I'll be happy to share ideas with anyone who is interested in this area. Please help, (Jeanna) LvSignLang SUBJECT: Re:Gallaudet Univ. Press Date: 97-08-13 05:22:42 EST From: Ratatat Gallaudet University is located in Washington, D.C. Couldn't you call the 202 information service and get the number for their press? Maybe the main number for the University? SUBJECT: Re:Gallaudet Univ. Press Date: 97-08-17 11:44:10 EST From: C Davary That's reallllly odd !!! i've used the 202-651 5000 nbr millions of times... are you sure it doesn't work ? it's a tty nbr.. i'm not sure if it's a voice nbr as well... i've just tried it a couple of days ago and it went through... i'll ask around at Gallaudet through email and get abck to you on a direct ph nbr for you.... c----- SUBJECT: Re:Sign Lang CD-ROM Date: 97-08-17 21:23:17 EST From: BETHCALI Sign Language for Everyone from B&N Software cost me only $9.99 +tax in K-Mart's Electronic Dept. SUBJECT: Peer note-taking for HI Date: 97-08-21 20:28:57 EST From: BNM Fluh I am developing a peer note-taking system for a hearing impaired student that is included full time in regular 7th grade. If anyone has any information they would like to share please Email me at: BNMFluh@aol.com. Thanks in advance! SUBJECT: Re:Peer note-taking for HI Date: 97-08-21 21:44:06 EST From: Largand123 I was wondering what experienced HI teachers thought of using FM/HA systems in their classrooms. What have you found are the benefits? Have there been any drawbacks? SUBJECT: FM/HA systems Date: 97-08-21 21:49:01 EST From: Largand123 I was wondering what experienced HI teachers thought of using FM/HA systems in their classrooms. What have you found are the benefits? Have there been any drawbacks? SUBJECT: Re:Peer note-taking for HI Date: 97-08-23 23:41:32 EST From: Upsidjsign I have used this with my deaf and hard of hearing students. I contact the teacher & we set up a meeting with students who have volunteered to help (It's good to have more than one notetaker--due to absence, orthodontial appts., getting a "break", etc.) I arrange to have the notetaker's notes photocopied DAILY (so nothing is missed). Also, I have copies distributed to: the IHH student, the classroom teacher, and myself (IHH teacher). The teacher's copies and mine are kept in separate binders. the teacher's binder remains in the classroom. This way the whole class has access to it--(in case of absence, etc.) and the teacher has an opportunity to check on the ACCURACY of the notes! Since I'm an itinerant teacher, I pick up my copies of the notes (Kept in a folder with the binder) when I make my "rounds", which can be 1 to 4x weekly, as necessary. I've done this for a number of years, and it seems to work well. Good luck! SUBJECT: Re:Peer note-taking for HI Date: 97-08-23 23:53:11 EST From: Upsidjsign Re: use of FM systems I've used them since 1973. The most important thing is that they MUST be prescribed and set by the child's audiologist, as an improperly set FM can damage residual hearing. It is also necessary to have access to a good repair source with quick turn-around, as FM's are notorious for frequent break downs. It is a good idea to select ONE brand within a school district--the reps will gladly show you anything, everything, etc... Let the audiologist help here! With one consistent system, items can be easily exchanged to meet student needs throughout the district. Also, it is mandatory that the classroom teacher be thoroughly in-serviced and that clear written instructions be posted for substitutes. And most importantly, the student must take responsibility for the use & care of an FM. Most of my kids are good about telling subs how to use it, too. SUBJECT: future teacher Date: 97-08-27 15:15:28 EST From: BDOLPHINT I have tried to read all your suggestions/questions, etc. I am curious about something and asking my advisor only puts me in a tailspin. I am registered as an "Elementary Education" major. I know I want to teach deaf children. Is it better to do special ed. as a master degree rather than taking all the extras at the undergrad level? It seems like I get a wider range of courses doing it this way. Many of our advisors do not consider deaf ed. right off the bat when discussing ESE. Instead they think of delayed students, etc. Anyone with input can write to me directly (scanning all the posted letters is so time-consuming). Extra time---what is that, anyway! :) thank you! aol address: bdolphint SUBJECT: Re:FM/HA systems Date: 97-08-30 17:54:03 EST From: Joeldor I am a Resource teacher and these have helped some of my students. My own son was just diagnosed with a mild hearing loss. I know he won't qualify for an IEP because he is academically ahead. However I am going to request a 504 plan for him and demand that the school department purchase an Easy Listener for him. He had attentional problems in Kindergarten and I truly believe the primary cause was he didn't hear his teachers' directions. SUBJECT: Re:Gallaudet Univ. Press Date: 97-09-07 22:40:47 EST From: Campb142 Check out the NICD web site. Do a search for "national infomation center on deafness" they have a catalog with info and a link to Gallaudet. Good luck! SUBJECT: Re:Bi-Bi and Whole Lang. issue Date: 97-09-07 22:41:44 EST From: Campb142 the Indiana School for the Deaf uses the bi-bi approach and are (I have been told) very willng to share information. Try looking them up. SUBJECT: Re:Peer note-taking for HI Date: 97-09-15 14:16:34 EST From: Nbowneg I use a system developed at NTID specifically for note-taking. It is a binder that uses NCR paper. The hearing student takes the notes and gives a copy to the Deaf student at the end of class. It saves a lot of time trying to run around and get copies made. Nancy SUBJECT: Masters in ASL... Date: 97-09-30 20:32:31 EST From: Lilttle 1 or does anyone know if you can get a BA in this? Im looking for any and all colleges in the PNW area,,,, please Help Heidi Lilttle1@aol.com SUBJECT: Deaf and Behavior disorders Date: 97-10-07 22:25:17 EST From: Kamaday Anyone out there working with kids who are deaf and have emotional and/or behavioral difficulties? SUBJECT: first words...... Date: 97-10-08 19:20:07 EST From: SpchDr I'm a speech path working with preschool children with multiple handicaps, some of whom are profoundly deaf. The HI teacher and I seem to be coming from different angles, and I'm curious if I need to step back and take another look at things. One child in the room, profoundly deaf with very few signs at home up to the point of entering class (and almost all of those "natural" signs), does not have labels attached to objects yet....ask him to hand you the "cow" and he will hand you whatever is within reach, cow or not. Same for "cup" "dog" etc.......He has just recently started signing "shoe" while looking at his shoe....a label!! At snack, he signs "more" to get additional food, but needs models for the actual food name, ie, cracker, cookie, drink....Ok, now for the difference of opinion. I am going with one-word signs at this point and objects, not pictures, to establish a label system. The teacher is signing EVERY word she says, to "show him that {signing} has meaning," including the story she reads from a picture book. During storytime, this kid is lost.....he does not yet connect with pictures. Should I be signing more? Is this the general consensus in the preschool population, to inundate with sign right off the bat? If he had labels, I wouldn't be so hesitant, but I'm afraid to overload his senses first thing. What should I be doing, or where can I look for resources to help me out on this? Thanks for any and all input......I'm learning more and more about this population everyday..... SUBJECT: Re:first words...... Date: 97-10-10 19:27:52 EST From: Cows1Rules I worked with deaf multi-handicapped students for many years. The level of signing should be comparable to the cognitive level. That is, why would you sign three to four word sentences to a child at a one-word level? I am a hearing-impaired teacher and used sign language as well as augmentative devices with my students. For example, during snack, the student had to name (sign) the snack wanted. This was eventually learned by using only two choices (eat/drink) and by using favorite items. Once the student understood the labeling we changed the snack to incorporate more signs. After much repetition, we were able to add the sign "more". So at that point we were up to two consecutive signs. I believe the best approach is to label what is significant in the environment. During story time, I would make picture cues to go along with the story so that when it was read we could work on additional vocabulary. I would point to the picture and sign what it was. I did not attempt to sign the entire story word for word but give them a few simple concepts. All of this depends on the cognitive level of the students. My students had severe mental retardation as well as being deaf. I also made a sign book for each student. We could send this back and forth to home. I would find the pictures of the signs we were working on and put it in the book (along with the sign for the parents to use and reinforce at home). This worked great. Hope this has helped. Cows1Rules SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 97-10-11 21:16:58 EST From: Lkjoyful Hi Lori. I am a student at Charleston Southern University. I am studying Elementary Education. I am doing a project for my special education class. We are giving a presentation on hearing impairment. We are going to focus on mainstreaming the hearing impaired students and how a regular classroom teacher can handle this. I am interested in hearing about how you handle your deaf student in the class. Any tips that you think would be helpful, would be greatly appreciated. Thank-you for your time. Lisa SUBJECT: help Please Date: 97-10-11 21:35:13 EST From: Lkjoyful I am an education student who is doing a project on hearing impairment. We are focusing on how to teach hearing impaired students in the regular classroom. If anyone has any information that I could use, I would love to hear from you. Please E-mail me at littlekluttz@juno.com. Thanks for the support. Lisa SUBJECT: Help???? Date: 97-10-15 00:08:56 EST From: LALLEN522 I have been a neighbor of a deaf man (40's) for many years. He lived with his mother an looked after her. He makes money doing lawn jobs. He reads lips only, and does not know how to read or write. His mother died a few months ago A sister moved in and wants him out. The police are there 3 or 4 times a week. The police are told lies that he was suppose to have said. Like he wants to kill a cop etc. His SSI check and money are getting" lost " I have called his minister he retired, deaf service(they will help get job only) to help him open a checking acc. and speak for him to lawyers.also teach him to read pill bottles. I didn't know he could not read until she died and he ask me to tell him how to take a perscription he got from his clinic. His mother owned the house and had a little money in bank.The mother did not leave a will. the other sibling is in a mental hospital. Living so close I cannot get in the middle of this . any sugestions?? SUBJECT: Re:Help???? Date: 97-10-15 14:40:21 EST From: Mars000210 Hello, you wrote: < I didn't know he could not read until she died and he ask me to tell him how to take a perscription he got from his clinic> Call the clinic where this person is getting seviced for his health needs explain your concerns and ask that they get social services to intervene. All clinics have these services. They should take over without your having to get anymore involved then this. Another source to report this abuse and it is abuse is to call any Public heath clinic and ask which agency you should file a report of abuse, these too are confidential and they do an investigation when a complaint is filed. All agencies keep confidential the name of the person filing the compaint. It is nice of you to be so concerned. If you can't find the numbers of these agencies any Emergency Room to a local hosipital will have them. Take Care Barb SUBJECT: teaching deaf students Date: 97-10-18 21:25:22 EST From: Bdrmongo I teach middle school deaf and h/h students in a public school. I am bored with my curriculum and am looking for new ideas and activities. Anyone with input please respond to this bulletin board or my e-mail: Bdrmongo@aol.com Thanks! SUBJECT: Re:teaching deaf students Date: 97-10-18 22:26:03 EST From: MarRigby I am a certified teacher of the hearing impaired who taught self-contained HI students over ten years ago, and I'm really out of the loop. At the beginning of this school year we got a severely HI eighth grader who was previously in a full-time Sp. Ed. classroom in a different school, different town. At the present, she is receiving maximum resource from me until all evaluations (both psychological and educational) have been completed. I completed all the academic testing, which indicates that she is working at the third grade level. Language testing by the LSH clinician clearly supports this. I'd like her to be able to stay at our school according to HER wishes, but I am not familiar with appropriate materials that are being used with the HI these days, especially at the middle school level. Any suggestions? Perhaps, if I had definite program ideas, I could convince my administrators that we can plan an appropriate program for her at our chool. I'd especially be interested in high quality Reading, Language Arts, and Math materials at her level. Any materials we special order for her would still be far less expensive than sending her to an out-of-district program. It would also be better than having her placed in a full-time Sp. Ed. class within the system with a teacher who is not certified to teach her. Marilyn SUBJECT: dyslexia and LD help Date: 97-10-19 11:08:21 EST From: LGrider422 I am currently a teacher for DHH kids with social/emotional disorders. Many of them also have Learning Disorders. I am looking for testing/teaching methods for LDs specifically dyslexia. SUBJECT: New York State Association Date: 97-10-19 15:54:56 EST From: Nbowneg Does anyone know the address of the NY State association of Educators of the deaf? I have an application blank but no idea where to send it. Thanks Nancy SUBJECT: Ed. of the Deaf - Position Date: 97-10-23 19:41:26 EST From: JReyno2727 NEEDED Certified teacher of the deaf; auditory/oral approach; to work with hearing impaired children in mainstream settings; north of Boston If interested, please eMail: JReyno2727@aol.com SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 97-10-26 11:16:14 EST From: AmyMC777 Dear Lori, I just want you to know that I admire you very much. Where were you when I did a term paper on this very subject last year? (LOL) I support the inclusion of deaf and hearing impaired students into the regular classroom. Coming from experience I was in both settings and both were rewarding. Keep up the good work! SUBJECT: HI Teacher Opening Date: 97-10-27 22:09:05 EST From: Fsu78 I am a teacher of the Hearing Impaired in Macon, GA. I am at a public elementary school where we have three HI classes and two teachers. WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF ANOTHER HI TEACHER!!! So far, we have set up the third class as an "oral" class with HOH students. That way, we don't HAVE to have a long-term substitute that can sign. We would like to re-group the kids to include deaf, signing kids in this third classroom, but we can't because none of the substitute teachers available know sign language. If anyone is certified to teach the deaf/hearing impaired, can sign and would be willing to relocate to the middle GA area, please e-mail me (FSU78). Thanks SUBJECT: Kentucky School for the Deaf Date: 97-10-27 22:13:38 EST From: Fsu78 I taught at the Kentucky School for the Deaf back in 1980-1982 and have lost touch with people there. If anyone works there or worked there during that time, I would love to hear from you and catch up on what's happening there. Just heard today of the sad news of the death of a couple of people who were there when I was and I would like to find out more. Thanks. Look forward to hearing from someone about KSD. SUBJECT: Where to begin the research? Date: 97-11-01 09:32:35 EST From: SUFI STEVE I have been teaching for over 20+ years but the past 10 years I have not been teaching Deaf and Hard of Hearing. I have recently re-entered the field and need to find the location where to find the the following issues. I can do this but I am just trying to focus my research rather than do a broad search where to find the data and then focus my attention The topics are on: What is the latest findings on "simultaneous communication" and its effectiveness? Are there any teaching methods of Deaf models to improve literacy? Does ASL work as a method of teaching to improve literacy and how? Does computer technology improve literacy and how? What is the best way for a school to accommodate the infrastructure and to suppport the addition of technology in its physical plant? In other words, if you had an ideal situation with unlimited money etc. How would one what is needed in a school for the Deaf/Hard of Hearing which would take into consideration- internet, video conferencing, captioning, etc. and other technological devices to facilitate communication and learning and literacy? You can reach me at: SufiSteve@aol.com. Thanks, Steve SUBJECT: ASL as a first language Date: 97-11-01 22:33:26 EST From: HEYZQ I work at the Beverly School for the Deaf in Beverly, Mass. We use SEE II (Signing Exact English). While there is some controversy around this, it is a language that incorporates many ASL signs and features-- the basic idea (in an overly simplified nutshell) is to facilitate reading and writing the English Language without "denying" students their own native language of ASL. The SEE II Center in CA is a good resource-- as is my school (which has been using SEE for about 5 years). Good Luck. SUBJECT: Re:Reading Date: 97-11-05 20:54:37 EST From: LD Learner Ever read the book about a character who is deaf? A Thousand Lights, by Hope Benton. The book is fabulous and based on a true story. The reader doesn't know the character is deaf until the middle of the story. The author's brother is hearing impaired and a lip reader. The author believes that the character is more important than the disability and she has focused on the similarities among children not the differences and yet she deals with the disability in a very subtle way. Excellent teacher guide is written for the book. Visit the web site of the distributor: http://www.accessfair.com You'll be happy you did...and so will your students. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 97-11-05 20:58:38 EST From: LD Learner Have your student read "A Thousand Lights," written by Hope Benton. The story is about two brothers, one of whom is hearing impaired. The book has been reviewed by the American Library Journal. The writer focuses on the character not the disability. You come to like the character and then she subtly includes information that lets you know that the character is hearing impaired. The boys climb Mt. Fuji in Japan and the information is authentic and factually correct. There is a teacher guide that goes was written by three teachers for the book. It is excellent with literature extension topics ranging from density to volcanoes around the world to culture differences. Visit the distributor's website: http://www.accessfair.com You'll love it. SUBJECT: BooksAboutDeafCharacters Date: 97-11-05 21:01:32 EST From: LD Learner Needed: Listing of books about characters who are deaf or hearing impaired. Please send listing to Dear Hope@aol.com Thank you. SUBJECT: Re:Mainstreaming Deaf Studen Date: 97-11-07 18:50:54 EST From: MarRigby LD Learner: Could you please tell me what the reading level is on "A Thousand Lights"? I teach Sp. Ed. Resource, but have two hearing impaired students. I'm sure they would love to read a book like this. Most of the reading levels range from Gr. 3-Gr. 5. Marilyn SUBJECT: CSE meetings Date: 97-11-11 07:08:14 EST From: Nbowneg I have been working with Deaf /HH kids for the past 17 years. CSE meetings still make me crazy. It always happens with HH kids that someone will ask,"So what can you do that our special ed. teachers can't?" I wish I had one great answer to give but the question always takes me aback even when I am expecting it. can any of you HELP? Thanks, Nancy SUBJECT: Re:Where to begin the resear Date: 97-11-11 12:16:49 EST From: HEYZQ To Sufi Steve-- A method used at my school (Beverly School for the Deaf in Beverly, MA) to improve literacy is the use of Signing Exact English II (SEEII). While there is some controversy around this, it has been very successful for many-- I'm sure the SEEII Center in California can provide you with research data and documentation. In a nutshell, SEEII uses ASL signs and features which are then modified to provide a specific sign for each word and each affix (e.g. cup, glass, and glasses would all be signed distinctly differently in order to have a sign to match each of these words as seen on the printed page). If this is of interest to you, feel free to get back in touch with me-- I'm hardly an expert, but do have some experts around me. Good luck. SUBJECT: Re:Deaf and Behavior disorde Date: 97-11-11 12:24:24 EST From: HEYZQ You betcha. My kids are deaf, multihandicapped, and often have behavioral disorders as well. I've worked with a variety of behavior problems in other populations over the years as well. I highly recommend taking a course in behavior management or finding a specialist in behavioral planning. It can be highly effective if presented with consistency, firmness, and love (sounds simple, doesn't it?). Good luck. Feel free to contact me for more info. SUBJECT: Re:CSE meetings Date: 97-11-12 20:13:44 EST From: MarRigby >>CSE meetings still make me crazy. It always happens with HH kids that someone will ask,"So what can you do that our special ed. teachers can't?"<< I know what you mean! We will be having a PPT on a hearing impaired young lady in a couple of weeks. The answer to your question is quite simple! We're certified! That should be reason enough! And a Sp. Ed. teacher is just not knowledgeable enough about the needs of the hearing impaired. My Sp. Ed. coordinator also doesn't really think that a certified teacher of the hearing impaired is needed in this case. For instance, she is up for a triennial review, and if her standard score on the psych. is about the same as educational achievement scores, she will probably be labeled a slow learner, rather than hearing impaired. The reasoning??? It's probably not the hearing impairment that is interfering with her learning. Therefore, there's the possibility that she won't qualify for any services!!! In many respects, she really should be in a full-time program for the hearing impaired. However, my Sp. Ed. coordinator will say that we have many students that are functioning on her same level, and she doesn't need any full-time services. In that case, I'd rather have her stay with me on a resource basis. Why??? Because my actual position is a Sp. Ed. Resource teacher, but I am also certified to teach the hearing impaired. She may also qualify for services from the Hearing Resource teacher from the regional program for the hearing impaired. I really feel out of the loop, since this is the first time teaching a hearing impaired student in over ten years. Marilyn SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 97-11-18 17:57:00 EST From: KNied10607 I teach in a day school in Chicago. I would be happy to see each and every child go to the Illinois School for the Deaf. I feel they would be in an environment where almost everyone understood them. They also would be able to participate in all after school activities.They would also be able to pick from many friends, not just the ones at school. It must be a hard decision for a hearing parent to send their child away, but I truly feel a resedential school has much,much more to offer a Deaf child. SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 97-11-18 19:30:40 EST From: MarRigby KNied10607: "They would also be able to pick from many friends, not just the ones at school. " If they're in a residential school, how do they find friends that are not in the school? Each child is different. For some, especially those who have not learned adequate communications skills (intelligible speech), a school for the deaf might be a good recommendation--not just for the academic value, but the social aspect would be valuable. However, there are many students who do just as well in a regular public school with either resource services or a full-time class. I used to teach in a full-time class for the hearing impaired within a public school setting. They were still segregated for the most part. Depending upon how well a student communicates, an inclusion setting could be quite valuable as well. Marilyn SUBJECT: Re:Opinions wanted ... Date: 97-11-19 19:24:23 EST From: DBLK 35 It is so very important for children to feel part of a group, not to feel different. For the hearing impaired being in a setting where everyone is similar, where everyone can understand and be understood, where being deaf is not an issue a school for the deaf provides the richest environment possible. I teach at a day school for the deaf in NY. Except for the few who come from deaf homes or have deaf sibs, home is a lonely, quiet, isolated place. Put even the brightest or the most oral ( not necessarily the same) in a hearing school and they too run the risk of becoming isolated. What's better. . .being in the bottom of a hearing class or being at the top of a deaf class? For self esteem and emotional development, I'd take the latter. Success should not be defined by where one attends school but by how well one does while there. Karen PS I have many deaf friends some of whom werre mainstreamed and some who weren't. The ones who were not have a better sense of whothey are and the ones who weren't wish they were !